Kazahied

A long time ago I was fairly active on these forums and played TFC nonstop, then rl issues took me away for a while and now I'm back. But before my hiatus I remember Bioxx posting about pipes and hinting at some sort of mechanical thing for the near future. And I cant help but wonder what came of this? It seemed like a really awesome idea that apears to have gotten swept away

The reason most mods dont work(or work well) with TFC is due to the lack of vanilla blocks and the extreme amounts of damage and health that non TFC things lack. Case in point; Mo'Creatures is pointless since all mobs can be one shot with a stone javelin, and that kinda defeats the purpose of the wyvrens and such since a skeleton can kill your pet fairly easily. Now if you get a custom world generator and force spawn vanilla biomes as needed into the world seed then you can run all the mob based mods you want, since they will have a natural place to spawn. Your only stumbling block is that TFC suppresses vanilla minecraft.

I really dont know why you cant read the previous posts on the forums about 90% of what you suggest

thx for the info, updating today

actually thats the client side crash report

when on my smp server various players will have random crashes on breaking blocks. http://pastebin.com/vbsEqanx link to paste bin ---- Minecraft Crash Report ----// Quite honestly, I wouldn't worry myself about that.Time: 2/20/15 7:18 PMDescription: Unexpected errorjava.lang.NullPointerException: Unexpected errorat net.minecraft.entity.DataWatcher.func_75687_a(SourceFile:303)at net.minecraft.client.network.NetHandlerPlayClient.func_147284_a(NetHandlerPlayClient.java:451)at net.minecraft.network.play.server.S1CPacketEntityMetadata.func_148833_a(SourceFile:41)at net.minecraft.network.play.server.S1CPacketEntityMetadata.func_148833_a(SourceFile:11)at net.minecraft.network.NetworkManager.func_74428_b(NetworkManager.java:212)at net.minecraft.client.multiplayer.PlayerControllerMP.func_78765_e(PlayerControllerMP.java:273)at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71407_l(Minecraft.java:1591)at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71411_J(Minecraft.java:962)at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_99999_d(Minecraft.java:887)at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(SourceFile:148)at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:62)at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:483)at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.launch(Launch.java:135)at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.main(Launch.java:28)A detailed walkthrough of the error, its code path and all known details is as follows:----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Head --Stacktrace:at net.minecraft.entity.DataWatcher.func_75687_a(SourceFile:303)at net.minecraft.client.network.NetHandlerPlayClient.func_147284_a(NetHandlerPlayClient.java:451)at net.minecraft.network.play.server.S1CPacketEntityMetadata.func_148833_a(SourceFile:41)at net.minecraft.network.play.server.S1CPacketEntityMetadata.func_148833_a(SourceFile:11)at net.minecraft.network.NetworkManager.func_74428_b(NetworkManager.java:212)at net.minecraft.client.multiplayer.PlayerControllerMP.func_78765_e(PlayerControllerMP.java:273)-- Affected level --Details:Level name: MpServerAll players: 2 total; [EntityClientPlayerMP['Jormandgund'/613698, l='MpServer', x=-197.94, y=150.62, z=-6055.37], EntityOtherPlayerMP['Mad_Toilet007_24'/593934, l='MpServer', x=-194.63, y=149.00, z=-6046.59]]Chunk stats: MultiplayerChunkCache: 417, 417Level seed: 219052080055953280Level generator: ID 00 - TFCDefault, ver 0. Features enabled: falseLevel generator options:Level spawn location: World: (628,147,-14584), Chunk: (at 4,9,8 in 39,-912; contains blocks 624,0,-14592 to 639,255,-14577), Region: (1,-29; contains chunks 32,-928 to 63,-897, blocks 512,0,-14848 to 1023,255,-14337)Level time: 642309 game time, 642309 day timeLevel dimension: 0Level storage version: 0x00000 - Unknown?Level weather: Rain time: 0 (now: false), thunder time: 0 (now: false)Level game mode: Game mode: creative (ID 1). Hardcore: false. Cheats: falseForced entities: 98 total; [EntityClientPlayerMP['Jormandgund'/613698, l='MpServer', x=-197.94, y=150.62, z=-6055.37], EntityZombieTFC['Zombie'/695817, l='MpServer', x=-258.59, y=124.00, z=-6043.00], EntityItem['item.item.Black Bronze Shovel'/4101, l='MpServer', x=-193.45, y=149.13, z=-6052.13], EntitySkeletonTFC['Skeleton'/696847, l='MpServer', x=-97.50, y=149.00, z=-6106.50], EntityZombieTFC['Zombie'/693516, l='MpServer', x=-112.50, y=150.00, z=-6099.50], EntityOtherPlayerMP['Mad_Toilet007_24'/593934, l='MpServer', x=-194.63, y=149.00, z=-6046.59], EntitySkeletonTFC['Skeleton'/695821, l='MpServer', x=-234.50, y=158.00, z=-5941.50], EntityCreeperTFC['Creeper'/697350, l='MpServer', x=-152.31, y=99.00, z=-6103.75], EntityCreeperTFC['Creeper'/697348, l='MpServer', x=-153.50, y=99.00, z=-6104.50], EntityCreeperTFC['Creeper'/697349, l='MpServer', x=-149.75, y=101.00, z=-6099.88], EntityCreeperTFC['Creeper'/696861, l='MpServer', x=-258.50, y=144.00, z=-6073.50], EntityItem['item.item.Black Bronze Axe'/4129, l='MpServer', x=-194.16, y=149.13, z=-6052.40], EntityZombieTFC['Zombie'/692776, l='MpServer', x=-193.41, y=144.00, z=-6103.00], EntitySkeletonTFC['Skeleton'/696864, l='MpServer', x=-267.66, y=143.18, z=-6082.56], EntityZombieTFC['Zombie'/697894, l='MpServer', x=-150.50, y=150.00, z=-5991.50], EntityItem['item.item.Black Bronze Hoe'/4142, l='MpServer', x=-194.19, y=149.13, z=-6052.13], EntityBat['Bat'/699452, l='MpServer', x=-139.72, y=41.95, z=-6015.31], EntitySkeletonTFC['Skeleton'/688701, l='MpServer', x=-279.50, y=149.00, z=-5974.50], EntityItem['item.tile.stone'/700477, l='MpServer', x=-198.00, y=148.00, z=-6054.00], EntityItem['item.item.Black Bronze Pick'/4161, l='MpServer', x=-195.05, y=149.13, z=-6052.75], EntitySkeletonTFC['Skeleton'/698699, l='MpServer', x=-157.50, y=156.00, z=-6012.50], EntitySkeletonTFC['Skeleton'/697928, l='MpServer', x=-91.50, y=149.00, z=-6089.50], EntityEndermanTFC['Enderman'/697926, l='MpServer', 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z=-5958.50], EntitySpiderTFC['Spider'/675219, l='MpServer', x=-191.59, y=150.00, z=-5972.72], EntityCreeperTFC['Creeper'/698775, l='MpServer', x=-253.50, y=126.00, z=-6033.50], EntitySkeletonTFC['Skeleton'/690836, l='MpServer', x=-252.75, y=152.00, z=-6022.34], EntitySkeletonTFC['Skeleton'/695189, l='MpServer', x=-262.50, y=144.00, z=-6145.50], EntitySkeletonTFC['Skeleton'/698280, l='MpServer', x=-260.50, y=158.00, z=-5980.50], EntityCreeperTFC['Creeper'/688041, l='MpServer', x=-118.72, y=149.00, z=-6083.41], EntityBat['Bat'/697769, l='MpServer', x=-140.68, y=45.31, z=-6014.34], EntitySkeletonTFC['Skeleton'/690604, l='MpServer', x=-183.50, y=148.00, z=-5977.50], EntitySkeletonTFC['Skeleton'/690605, l='MpServer', x=-180.72, y=147.00, z=-5980.13], EntitySkeletonTFC['Skeleton'/699309, l='MpServer', x=-172.50, y=146.00, z=-5972.50], EntitySkeletonTFC['Skeleton'/695200, l='MpServer', x=-199.50, y=83.00, z=-5949.50], EntitySkeletonTFC['Skeleton'/699041, l='MpServer', x=-253.50, y=151.00, 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This sort of is an issue worth nothing though, my rig has two gtx 980s and my fps plummets when I encounter the dense forests. Even with fastcraft running the users on my server have difficulties navigating due to the forests causing killer lag.

What was at one point considered magic is now possible with technology. The point where these definitions blurr is that anything extraordinary in effect with no knowledge of the fundementals of how it happens can technically be called magic. So following this train of thought, basic alchemy; for both offense and defensive purposes, while technically science, can be considered magic.So a system of magic based around alchemy for logical outcomes seems to fit right in with TFC's span of gameplay.

Honestly it mechanical power would only be useful for helping large servers ( mine is about 120ish users) and providing quality of life for the solo or small group players. If you are playing by yourself you dont really need to have a factory sized power plant to grind grain, a small water wheel with a mill stone and maybe a sawmill attached would provide a fairly decent ammount of use and make it less tedious then rightclick + wait, rightclick + wait. being able to load the mills with material and turn them on would be a great boon, especially with other mods that make life much much harder.

Mostly due to steam power being utilized over a century after the "time period" of TFC, however basic pneumatics and hydraulics were used by the ancient Greeks, Romans and Egyptians. however having basic stirling engines and other means Something along this line; http://mi.eng.cam.ac.uk/IALego/steam_files/steam_1.jpg if included should be the pinnacle of technology, but should be very resource demanding and expensive to build. the previously discussed methods of storing power; the gravity batteries are still the most plausible way of generating smooth power and storing it in a ready to use state.

steam wouldn't come into its own until after iron and steel are used in the system. mostly due to heat limitations of anything made from the cast-able metals. using a low cost material would help with running a low power system, like a mill to grind grain. it doesn't really need the volume of steam to necessitate a high pressure iron pipe to carry the power. The machinery would all be intended for a more "end game" scenario. sort of a "what to do with all this metal" kinda deal.

The concept is that the machines would allow things to be done, and parts made with stronger materials would let the builder run more powerful things. a steel pipe can carry more steam than a bronze or lead one. With wood or T1 metals a system should be limited to very low power, but as you work your way up the material tree you start to worry more about generating power than transferring and using it

The idea wasnt to make this extreamely complex, but to create a system where you can add other materials to the mix to add effects to the blasts. No need to make it super realistic

I agree with Lordofwolves, having a dynamic explosive material would be much better than having preset bombs to place. A system where you can mix your own powder with different properties would be a great implement along with a sort of alchemy style science suite (beakers distillery mortar and pestles ect). this would give players the capacity to create an explosive tailored to their own needs rather than forcing them to use predesigned ones and trying to learn how to use explosives that are relatively pointless. And before this thread continues think about the ICBM mod and what are the things most commonly banned with it? (nukes and other big explosives due to world destruction)

Like the Op just being able to place gems in sockets carved with a chisel would be amazing. Possibly have larger/better quality gems be able to take up more space seamlessly. Allowing light to filter through the gems would be pretty cool as well.