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      Hey All, A topic has come up of late in the IRC channel in regards to the general feel of the forums and the community that supports them. Things have progressed further than I would have liked with out this being addressed more publicly because I would much rather have snubbed this out sooner rather than later.. but I have been busy. Here is the general rule I would like people to follow: Wheaton's Law "Don't be a dick." Those of you from the IRC channel know that this is the only rule I ask people in there to follow and we generally have a good and lively time chatting about all manner of things. This is basic rule that just about everyone understands and I am going to expand it to the forums from here moving forward. If you can not help people in a helpful and polite manner then I simply ask you to stop. Now I generally take a back seat to moderating the forums as I like to participate in the suggestions forum fairly heavily at times and would rather do so as a forums user than a moderator. But I am also fairly well known for being the person who constantly puts their foot down and so I am stepping up and doing so on here. If you find yourself unable to respond to a message politely then I ask that you do not respond. This mostly focuses on the increasing level of hostility found within the Suggestion forum as well as the Server forum. I do not care if this is the 30th some odd time you have seen someone make the same suggestion. Or even if the new post on an older topic is one entry above the old one. I expect the members of this forum to respond politely to the user, new or old, and point to the older topic if it applies and even go the extra step to suggest they either add in new information or to summarize the outcome of the previous discussion based upon the new post's entry into it. That is what we are here for, that is why I close most topics instead of deleting them, so that they can be found and referenced down the road. The next topic is the slew of derailment attempts I have seen as of late. If you want to have fun and joke around that is what the off topic forum is for and pretty much anything goes there. I do not expect to read a suggestion thread and have to go through 3 pages of image memes people have shot back and forth. Quite simply this is a waste of my time to read and then have to clean up. Now for the summary. I am going to start taking a more active role, especially in policing the suggestion forum, and handing out warn levels to people whom I see doing this. These will be indiscriminate and applied not to just the first person who derails or is impolite on a topic or response, but to everyone whom follows the lead of that person. As I do not like doing things with out giving you all warning this post shall serve as that warning. If you have a desire to bring this topic up with me then I invite you to do so on the IRC channel. Lets raise the level of quality and grow the community. Let us not descend into the quality often found on the minecraft or league of legend forums. There is simply no need for that here. Be passionate about things, just do not be abusive.
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      Recently I've seen a few server listings showing up on the first page of the Servers forum that have been closed for an extended period of time, but have recently gotten a reply from a new member who didn't realize the server is offline. To help prevent this from happening in the future, it would be greatly appreciated if you could use the report function on the original post of any servers that have been confirmed as offline, so that the topic may be locked. If you are the admin of a server and plan on taking the server offline, please use the report function on the original post of your topic to let the TFC Staff know that the topic should be locked. If you are the admin of a server that has a locked topic, and would wish to bring the server back online, please use the report function on the original post of the topic to let the TFC Staff know that the topic should be unlocked. As always, please remember to follow rule #3 of the servers forum and update your topic title to contain the version of TFC that the server is currently running. You can do so by editing the OP, and then clicking on "Use Full Editor."
kelik

Wiki Discussion and Proposed Changes Thread

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Hi, I noticed that the OP in the other Wiki Updated thread seems to have fallen off the radar, so this thread will serve as a location to propose changes to the wiki as well as track projects in progress by myself and other contributors that I am aware of.

without further ado, here are the projects that I am working on and changes that should be made, categorized by my perceived priority.

High priority:

Medium Priority

  • Major Overhaul of how info on metals is presented (creating a general page for each metal detailing the aquisition and uses of each metal) (my personal project)
  • Write a page about cave-ins
Low Priority
  • Fix broken images
  • Add missing items pages for vanilla items that still exist and tfc items that are missing pages.
  • Replace outdated images
Completed
  • General Page for Tin, Bismuth created
  • Updated various pages to reflect new plank item and its use in recipes (flamestrider)
  • Added page about the sluice (flamestrider)
  • Added page about the panning bowl (was already there but had only the crafting info)
  • Updated Fire Pit page with new charcoal pit system (Partial credit to flamestrider)
  • Reworked Anvil Template (flamestrider)
  • Reworked Armor Page (flamestrider and Kreicus)
  • Removed references to propicks from stone pages (GCountach)
  • Added warning about losing metal when heated to liquid to Forge page (flamestrider)
  • Added an Agriculture page (flamestrider)
  • Added images to the fruit tree page (Kreicus)
  • Added pages about the farming crops (Kreicus)
  • Redid the tools pages (flamestrider)
  • Added Buckets page (flamestrider)
  • Added Storage Solutions page (flamestrider)
How To Contribute

Simply post your suggestions here or pm me and reasonable suggestions will be added to the list here. If you have editing rights on the wiki feel free to add any projects that you are working on or volunteer to assist other projects. please provide your wiki name for credit reasons, also I will be tracking your activity on the wiki, if no activity on a volunteered project is observed for a full 7 days, your name will be removed from working on that project so that others may volunteer.

This OP will be edited regularly with updates. Please pin this.

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The recipes that use the new planks are all updated, check

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Somebody could translate the articles to other languages, so those who don't know english could still check some things in the wiki

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Somebody could translate the articles to other languages, so those who don't know english could still check some things in the wiki

we would need someone that actually knows those other languages to assist in that though, i'll propose a wiki project for that, but won't add it to the list, since i cannot work on it myself.

The recipes that use the new planks are all updated, check

ill update the OP once i can verify that, after work. thanks for the tip!

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Well, i do know spanish :P if i had the time, i would help you in that language at least.

Still, my computer remains broken and my dad is trying to fix it so... : i don't think i will be able to do it for now.

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edited front page, esteban, are you the Flamestrider guy on the wiki?

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edited front page, esteban, are you the Flamestrider guy on the wiki?

I am ;) Saw your greeting there. I am mostly on the IRC and the Wiki, so hadn't seen this thread.

I updated the scribing gui and the plans to have the newer plan image...

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I am ;) Saw your greeting there. I am mostly on the IRC and the Wiki, so hadn't seen this thread.

I updated the scribing gui and the plans to have the newer plan image...

ah i see, i hadn't found you on the "if you want to edit the wiki" thread so i wasn't sure. thanks for your help so far!

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I think I got priviledges via the IRC, was quite a long time back so can't be 100% sure :)

No thanks needed, regarding the wiki, it's my way of supporting this fantastic mod.

Edit: I found out how I got it :) It was before there was a thread to ask it in, so I asked SpAnser If I could help out... this was back in early May. I'm happy to see that it's easier to gain access/ get people to know you are interested what with the thread dedicated to it. /Edit

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Please don't take this the wrong way editors, but if one of you could put up on the front page in large text so everyone can see it, something that says like: "The wiki is not 100% reliable as the game is in beta and frequently being changed - some information may be out of date." if it hasn't already been put up. I have noticed that there is frequently someone posting in the forums asking about something because the wiki hasn't been updated or something hasn't been added to it yet and they are assuming that the wiki is correct when they post their question thinking they have hit a bug or want to just complain about something not working.

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Please don't take this the wrong way editors, but if one of you could put up on the front page in large text so everyone can see it, something that says like: "The wiki is not 100% reliable as the game is in beta and frequently being changed - some information may be out of date." if it hasn't already been put up. I have noticed that there is frequently someone posting in the forums asking about something because the wiki hasn't been updated or something hasn't been added to it yet and they are assuming that the wiki is correct when they post their question thinking they have hit a bug or want to just complain about something not working.

Added a short statement to the wiki main page.

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I'm writing a thing for the currently blank altitude page on the wiki. As far I know, the only effect altitude has on the player is that fires burn hotter at higher elevations (which is weird, as there should be less oxygen and the cold temperatures and higher humidity at high altitudes should make fuel less combustible). Is there anything else?

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I'm writing a thing for the currently blank altitude page on the wiki. As far I know, the only effect altitude has on the player is that fires burn hotter at higher elevations (which is weird, as there should be less oxygen and the cold temperatures and higher humidity at high altitudes should make fuel less combustible). Is there anything else?

the only effect altitude currently has on heat in general is that bloomeries lose heat if they are below a certain height. forges and fire pits lost the effect from height in 45 or 46.

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Besides what has been stated before: Could somebody please consider to put some images of the fruittrees into their wiki page (with/without leaves, bloom, fruit).

Because many people seem to wonder what those leaveless, tall bushes are and I had to research a lot myself untill I figured that out.

So I think that this could help somewhat because the fruit trees aren't mentioned as often as the other game elements till now.

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the only effect altitude currently has on heat in general is that bloomeries lose heat if they are below a certain height. forges and fire pits lost the effect from height in 45 or 46.

See, that's interesting, because I made a bunch of firepits in creative mode at different elevations and tested that. All firepits were fed by the same wood (oak) and all firepits had a completely clear area above them. Then I waited to see what temperature they would stabilize at. There wasn't much of a temperature difference, but it was noticeable. You can test this for yourself and see if your results match mine. I was a little confused by my results!

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See, that's interesting, because I made a bunch of firepits in creative mode at different elevations and tested that. All firepits were fed by the same wood (oak) and all firepits had a completely clear area above them. Then I waited to see what temperature they would stabilize at. There wasn't much of a temperature difference, but it was noticeable. You can test this for yourself and see if your results match mine. I was a little confused by my results!

were the ambient temperatures different? cuz i think altitude affects temperature, which affects burning heat. bioxx was "supposed" to have removed altitude from the fire heat equation.

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Besides what has been stated before: Could somebody please consider to put some images of the fruittrees into their wiki page (with/without leaves, bloom, fruit).

Because many people seem to wonder what those leaveless, tall bushes are and I had to research a lot myself untill I figured that out.

So I think that this could help somewhat because the fruit trees aren't mentioned as often as the other game elements till now.

added to the OP as a medium priority. it'll be tough for me to do alone, as i dont have any mods that will advance the calendar, but maybe my server will help me.

edit: my server-mates brought to my attention that Not-Enough-Items has a time adjustment feature that is compatible with TFC's calendar, will investigate within the next few days.

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I'm still around, its just finals for me :(

Also, I can't get Forge to load. It just stops on "Updating Minecraft". So I probably won't be much use until I can actually play the game.

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I'm still around, its just finals for me :(

Also, I can't get Forge to load. It just stops on "Updating Minecraft". So I probably won't be much use until I can actually play the game.

Hey, i only started playing again TFC last week, and i entered this forum and started helping with stuff before that. You only need to keep up reading the changelog, and you will be fine :3

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Hey, i only started playing again TFC last week, and i entered this forum and started helping with stuff before that. You only need to keep up reading the changelog, and you will be fine :3

But I can't experiment. Reading the changelog helps, but its a poor substitute for a hands-on experience. Oh well. Once finals are over, I can probably get things up and running again :D

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Kelik,

Hi, thought I'd introduce myself on here since I've been updating the wiki some, and you've been updating my updates! :)

I dont really browse the forums much, I'm mainly on the IRC like flamestrider, who pointed me to this thread..

If you've seen my updates they're mostly cosmetic, as I think many pages could be visibly presented better.

I'll keep an eye on this thread and try to accomplish some of the priorities that I'm able.

You can find me on IRC, or PM me on here if ya need.

Thanks!,

-Kreicus

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Oo! I'm on the small ores and nuggets. Each ore is a fourth am I right? (please don't think I'm incapable beacuse of that XD) I should have the info up within the hour, I may add pictures later.

By the way, I updated the getting started guide, small changes just to replace flint tools and the ability to mine right away. Check it out please! You can edit but tell me about it.

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Kelik,

Hi, thought I'd introduce myself on here since I've been updating the wiki some, and you've been updating my updates! :)

I dont really browse the forums much, I'm mainly on the IRC like flamestrider, who pointed me to this thread..

If you've seen my updates they're mostly cosmetic, as I think many pages could be visibly presented better.

I'll keep an eye on this thread and try to accomplish some of the priorities that I'm able.

You can find me on IRC, or PM me on here if ya need.

Thanks!,

-Kreicus

hi kreicus! your additions are great and i hope to see more from you!

Oo! I'm on the small ores and nuggets. Each ore is a fourth am I right? (please don't think I'm incapable beacuse of that XD) I should have the info up within the hour, I may add pictures later.

By the way, I updated the getting started guide, small changes just to replace flint tools and the ability to mine right away. Check it out please! You can edit but tell me about it.

the new getting started guide is pretty good, i'm just going to add a link to the stone age guide at the bottom as it seems to be the logical next step. also, yes. each small ore or nugget is 1/4 the value of a regular ore.

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the new getting started guide is pretty good, i'm just going to add a link to the stone age guide at the bottom as it seems to be the logical next step. also, yes. each small ore or nugget is 1/4 the value of a regular ore.

Thank you! Editing. I haven't gotten out of the stone age, I thought there were a few more put into an ingot when I started smelting.
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