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    • Crysyn

      Only help if you can be helpful

      Hey All, A topic has come up of late in the IRC channel in regards to the general feel of the forums and the community that supports them. Things have progressed further than I would have liked with out this being addressed more publicly because I would much rather have snubbed this out sooner rather than later.. but I have been busy. Here is the general rule I would like people to follow: Wheaton's Law "Don't be a dick." Those of you from the IRC channel know that this is the only rule I ask people in there to follow and we generally have a good and lively time chatting about all manner of things. This is basic rule that just about everyone understands and I am going to expand it to the forums from here moving forward. If you can not help people in a helpful and polite manner then I simply ask you to stop. Now I generally take a back seat to moderating the forums as I like to participate in the suggestions forum fairly heavily at times and would rather do so as a forums user than a moderator. But I am also fairly well known for being the person who constantly puts their foot down and so I am stepping up and doing so on here. If you find yourself unable to respond to a message politely then I ask that you do not respond. This mostly focuses on the increasing level of hostility found within the Suggestion forum as well as the Server forum. I do not care if this is the 30th some odd time you have seen someone make the same suggestion. Or even if the new post on an older topic is one entry above the old one. I expect the members of this forum to respond politely to the user, new or old, and point to the older topic if it applies and even go the extra step to suggest they either add in new information or to summarize the outcome of the previous discussion based upon the new post's entry into it. That is what we are here for, that is why I close most topics instead of deleting them, so that they can be found and referenced down the road. The next topic is the slew of derailment attempts I have seen as of late. If you want to have fun and joke around that is what the off topic forum is for and pretty much anything goes there. I do not expect to read a suggestion thread and have to go through 3 pages of image memes people have shot back and forth. Quite simply this is a waste of my time to read and then have to clean up. Now for the summary. I am going to start taking a more active role, especially in policing the suggestion forum, and handing out warn levels to people whom I see doing this. These will be indiscriminate and applied not to just the first person who derails or is impolite on a topic or response, but to everyone whom follows the lead of that person. As I do not like doing things with out giving you all warning this post shall serve as that warning. If you have a desire to bring this topic up with me then I invite you to do so on the IRC channel. Lets raise the level of quality and grow the community. Let us not descend into the quality often found on the minecraft or league of legend forums. There is simply no need for that here. Be passionate about things, just do not be abusive.
    • Kittychanley

      Offline Servers

      Recently I've seen a few server listings showing up on the first page of the Servers forum that have been closed for an extended period of time, but have recently gotten a reply from a new member who didn't realize the server is offline. To help prevent this from happening in the future, it would be greatly appreciated if you could use the report function on the original post of any servers that have been confirmed as offline, so that the topic may be locked. If you are the admin of a server and plan on taking the server offline, please use the report function on the original post of your topic to let the TFC Staff know that the topic should be locked. If you are the admin of a server that has a locked topic, and would wish to bring the server back online, please use the report function on the original post of the topic to let the TFC Staff know that the topic should be unlocked. As always, please remember to follow rule #3 of the servers forum and update your topic title to contain the version of TFC that the server is currently running. You can do so by editing the OP, and then clicking on "Use Full Editor."
Sda215

The (Inevitable) End of the TFC Forums -- Now a Forum for Newcomers and Veterans

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After observing the silence of the TFC Forums, searching through its history in the rubble, posts, and corpses, hearing talk of the doom, I think it's clear that I brought this frightening subject into fruition; from what I have heard, since the ending of the Second Age (I divide the months by ages 3x, since things can change greatly in a meagre amount of time), the Third Age has been a melacholy and significant era. It's time that we should discuss of this rising problem.

The reason I input this thread in the Off-Topic subforum is that it has nothing to do with TFC itself; it relates to these forums, rather.

Now, discuss ideas and suggestions on how we combat this threat.

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grab the combustible lemons, cupcakes and all the mudkips you can find...

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Well, I could muster my army of Sherlock Clones to enforce a strict policy of every man, woman, child, and lobster posting a minimum of 10 times a day. But, that would entail setting up a world-wide police state, and I'm much too lazy to bother with that.

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That would just lead to useless posts. :P

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True, true... but we need to think up of something effective. The Third Age is nearing its end, and we don't have much time.

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I'm trying to post as much as possible, as I too have seen the forums become quite quiet lately.. I don't think derails are the way to go in keeping it alive though. I think the main problem is that a lot of us (I did this myself and I'm not proud of it), come off on new people that show one bit of dislike towards TFC. That scares people away. That and the fact that we have 200 users online at any time of day but only 10 of those users actually register on the forums -_-

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11 of those. I'm always here, registered, you just don't know about me. As Squid said, maybe being less harsh on others viewpoints ( besides stupid ideas, you need to be harsh on those. ) ?

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Well... Tfc isn't dead. And new life comes in the forms of TFC2 sometime in the near future. I am thinking when that happens, there will be a new surge of activity.

The sad thing is that with tfc as it is (in a development pause), most of the suggetions one could possibly muster within reason have been brought up. Ideas have come, gone, been stomped, applauded, implemented, left for dead... it feels as though the only thing surfacing in the forums is a reiteration of what has already been. Without tfc moving forward at the moment, it feels like waiting for a cool trickle of water in a warm stagnant pool.

There was a time when the Off Topic area was a rarely visited place, and now that seems to be the one with the only newness to it.

I hope something gives soon.

Let it be known that I am also very grateful we have Dunk still working on tfc. Justvseems quiet is all....

I know I'm not going anywhere, but I agree with the Squidmeister that I've seen more than a fair amount of new joins scared off. The others seem to circle just outside of the area of effect... waiting for the next unawares wader to enter the waters...

I would encourage anyone and everyone, new and old, to share any new experiences, happenings, games, and TFC stories with the rest of us. Lets rekindle this mo fo!

GAME ON

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Well... Tfc isn't dead. And new life comes in the forms of TFC2 sometime in the near future. I am thinking when that happens, there will be a new surge of activity.

The sad thing is that with tfc as it is (in a development pause), most of the suggetions one could possibly muster within reason have been brought up. Ideas have come, gone, been stomped, applauded, implemented, left for dead... it feels as though the only thing surfacing in the forums is a reiteration of what has already been. Without tfc moving forward at the moment, it feels like waiting for a cool trickle of water in a warm stagnant pool.

There was a time when the Off Topic area was a rarely visited place, and now that seems to be the one with the only newness to it.

I hope something gives soon.

Let it be known that I am also very grateful we have Dunk still working on tfc. Justvseems quiet is all....

I know I'm not going anywhere, but I agree with the Squidmeister that I've seen more than a fair amount of new joins scared off. The others seem to circle just outside of the area of effect... waiting for the next unawares wader to enter the waters...

I would encourage anyone and everyone, new and old, to share any new experiences, happenings, games, and TFC stories with the rest of us. Lets rekindle this mo fo!

GAME ON

I agree; we have been frightening off outsiders from TFC, and it's doing damage on hopes of achieving a larger fanbase.

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YouTube is where i discovered TFC, Since then I've been searching for all the TFC related videos i can, viewing, liking and subbing (where i think they deserve it) and sharing with friends. Another gaming community that i belong to are now considering converting one of our minecraft servers over to TFC due to me pestering them to do so. Keep inputting the energy and it will pay off, the worst thing to do is give up. Maybe some new forum competitons/games, can keep the circulation going while update is waited upon. First thing i did when i found this mod was donate, not loads but something to say thank you, for those that can afford too and haven't yet, maybe a thank you would go some way to encouraging progress with further development. ;)

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Sorrily, i really don't have time for this forums anymore... Studies, studies, studies, studies, studies, and oh i forgot to mention studies? : along with some other, much deeper personal problems... I will probably become just a lurker, and that's if i can even watch this forums. I will come back... but yeah, do not expect me to do so any time soon. See ya, i guess ._.

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I think the proper use of this forum and doing it so in a very polite manner will go a very long way.

What i mean by that is,

Give only support in the Support topics. No comments of personal nature whatsoever. Telling someone that we talked about his problem numeres times and giving him the feeling of being dumb or stupid for making such a (for us) simple mistake will only make him feel bad and move on to some other mod. Now, i can imagine very well that answering one thing over and over again can piss someone off...so i say, if you cant handle it, don't post. :)

Don't let your feelings in Discussion threads get the better of you. Be constructive in describing your thoughts. Saying "this idea is bullshit" or "we already talked about this, use search" or any other comment that makes someone say to himself "f**k this, time to move on", imho, should never be used.

Suggestions threads should be only constructive in nature. I can not think of one idea that could be defined as bad, dumb or stupid, only "it fits into TFC world" or "not so much". After all, all of our ideas are only here to give the devs more stuff to work with. This project belongs to Bioxx and Dunk, and we can only hope that our ideas are on the same page with them. There is no point in flaming someone just because i think that the devs are thinking the same way as i am. We do not know what they are thinking, and it's good that way, it's there project. I think, all we can do is work together constructively on ideas we have, and try to developed them, so that they can be worthy of there time. That way, maybe even get implemented.

Off Topic --> Bash away :) ... no, not really... on second thought... bee free

This is only my $0.02

No disrespect intended.

This forum and TFC can live a very long time ... we can make sure of that.

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All great ideas around. Now, we need the voice of the (Mister) Dunkleosteus himself.
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All great ideas around. Now, we need the voice of the (Mister) Dunkleosteus himself.

well, i think that he's fallen off the side of the planet, i havent seen him online anywhere for a week almost
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srg, he's been livestreaming a lot (hes livestreaming now for example)

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I enjoyed posting my ideas here and I actually check around every day. The truth is I notice that how I prefer to play and my view on ideas is pretty different than a majority of those here, so being quiet is easier. Ideas will start flowing again though once the new build comes out and people have something to talk about. Frankly, I've been holding my breath for butchery for the better part of the year now, and I'll keep doing so until it happens.

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Yeah... I don't really have time to be on here all the time like I was before, and it will be that way for a while. Maybe after school is out for the summer I'll be around more often. But, until then you guys will just have to deal with the silence caused by my absence. (JOKES!)

Serious(ish) time now, the solution is to be nice to newbies, really. We won't grow without them, and that means we will come to rely more and more on the grizzled vets who no longer have the time to dedicate to this forum that we used to (like me, and JAG up there).

So yeah... be nice damnit!

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on an off-topic (no pun :P ) question, what happened to the guys that were doing a thaumcraft 3 patch ??

or the NPC addon guy winterbrass ?

To say something constructive atleast, i feel as if the only thing i have been posting lately is the support.

it seems as if people download TFC, run into some bugs, make a user here and post them, then i reply, bid them welcome to this forum

and they are nowhere to be seen again.

Dis makes me sad :unsure:

EDIT: This.... i dont even.....

143 users are online (in the past 15 minutes)

6 members, 137 guests, 0 anonymous users (See full list)

dukejuke, hadies237, Menoch, flamestrider, Google, Emris_Morath, Euphoric

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..... Google, .....

BIG brother is watching.... :ph34r:

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Member-wise is the main problem. Not many are active all at once, some get feisty at newcomers, and the guests fear that if they register, they might get a good scorning as well.

In other words, be nice unless... sigh... I'm going to hate myself for speaking defile language... bastardising(?) newcomers are your job.

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BIG brother is watching.... :ph34r:

i cannot find google in the members list
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And yet he's always logged in ... :ph34r: ...

:)

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Community is fueled by either new members or new events. We haven't really have that many events lately, and being community of mod that still is in beta we don't get that many new members. That's that.

I don't think we should really be speaking of death, but of hibernation.

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