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      Hey All, A topic has come up of late in the IRC channel in regards to the general feel of the forums and the community that supports them. Things have progressed further than I would have liked with out this being addressed more publicly because I would much rather have snubbed this out sooner rather than later.. but I have been busy. Here is the general rule I would like people to follow: Wheaton's Law "Don't be a dick." Those of you from the IRC channel know that this is the only rule I ask people in there to follow and we generally have a good and lively time chatting about all manner of things. This is basic rule that just about everyone understands and I am going to expand it to the forums from here moving forward. If you can not help people in a helpful and polite manner then I simply ask you to stop. Now I generally take a back seat to moderating the forums as I like to participate in the suggestions forum fairly heavily at times and would rather do so as a forums user than a moderator. But I am also fairly well known for being the person who constantly puts their foot down and so I am stepping up and doing so on here. If you find yourself unable to respond to a message politely then I ask that you do not respond. This mostly focuses on the increasing level of hostility found within the Suggestion forum as well as the Server forum. I do not care if this is the 30th some odd time you have seen someone make the same suggestion. Or even if the new post on an older topic is one entry above the old one. I expect the members of this forum to respond politely to the user, new or old, and point to the older topic if it applies and even go the extra step to suggest they either add in new information or to summarize the outcome of the previous discussion based upon the new post's entry into it. That is what we are here for, that is why I close most topics instead of deleting them, so that they can be found and referenced down the road. The next topic is the slew of derailment attempts I have seen as of late. If you want to have fun and joke around that is what the off topic forum is for and pretty much anything goes there. I do not expect to read a suggestion thread and have to go through 3 pages of image memes people have shot back and forth. Quite simply this is a waste of my time to read and then have to clean up. Now for the summary. I am going to start taking a more active role, especially in policing the suggestion forum, and handing out warn levels to people whom I see doing this. These will be indiscriminate and applied not to just the first person who derails or is impolite on a topic or response, but to everyone whom follows the lead of that person. As I do not like doing things with out giving you all warning this post shall serve as that warning. If you have a desire to bring this topic up with me then I invite you to do so on the IRC channel. Lets raise the level of quality and grow the community. Let us not descend into the quality often found on the minecraft or league of legend forums. There is simply no need for that here. Be passionate about things, just do not be abusive.
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      Offline Servers

      Recently I've seen a few server listings showing up on the first page of the Servers forum that have been closed for an extended period of time, but have recently gotten a reply from a new member who didn't realize the server is offline. To help prevent this from happening in the future, it would be greatly appreciated if you could use the report function on the original post of any servers that have been confirmed as offline, so that the topic may be locked. If you are the admin of a server and plan on taking the server offline, please use the report function on the original post of your topic to let the TFC Staff know that the topic should be locked. If you are the admin of a server that has a locked topic, and would wish to bring the server back online, please use the report function on the original post of the topic to let the TFC Staff know that the topic should be unlocked. As always, please remember to follow rule #3 of the servers forum and update your topic title to contain the version of TFC that the server is currently running. You can do so by editing the OP, and then clicking on "Use Full Editor."
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TFC is really the only reason I bought Minecraft and it's quite simply a much better game than the original survival mode. Minecraft is 20Euro ($26 USD) so a $26 donation to TFC seemed fair in my case. I thought I might encourage you to think about donating as well - any amount really.  Think about all the hours you've spent playing TFC.  You could easily spend $26 having drinks or dinner one night.  Why not say thank you for all the other nights you've spent enjoying TFC?  It's time to pass the hat and say thank you B)

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Since when do we have that big green donation button? Must've overlooked that.

 

Here have 20.-

 

keep the great work up.

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I had to commission a custom mod this month, so I can't donate right now, but donating to TFC has been on my mind ever since Dunk mentioned there not being any donations made in a while.  

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Holy crap guys.

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I've been thinking about it as well recently and I feel pretty guilty for not donating sooner myself. Consider that the average xbox360 game is sixty bucks and lasts roughly ten hours. TFC has given me HUNDREDS of hours of play time, literally, plus its superior quality compared to most of the mindlessly mass produced and uninspired garbage that is considered video games these days. Sure, its got its bugs and flaws, but ultimately TFC just keeps improving with time. I'm embarrassed that I haven't contributed anything to something that brings me so much pleasure and enjoyment sooner. As soon as my paycheck rolls in, I plan on rectifying this horrendous oversight. Thank you Dunk and Bioxx! I'm sure at times it seems that the community is ungrateful and does nothing but complain that all of your hard work just isn't good enough, but most of us are very appreciative. It seems the most obvious way to show that is by donating, so that is what I will do and encourage others to do the same. The devs deserve it! Hell, I wouldn't even be playing minecraft at all anymore if TFC weren't around. Thanks again guys!

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I know this is Bioxx's baby and he should definitely get something for it, but I think also there should be a donate button for the rest of the team. They put a lot of work into it and it would be nice for people to show appreciation for them as well. You guys all do a great job.

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I know this is Bioxx's baby and he should definitely get something for it, but I think also there should be a donate button for the rest of the team. They put a lot of work into it and it would be nice for people to show appreciation for them as well. You guys all do a great job.

 

The money made from donations is evenly split between the team. I.E. Dunk gets half and Bioxx gets half. Currently the other people helping out with the mod are mostly doing minor bugfixes, and calculating their "fair share" isn't really worth when the donation amounts are low and they may only be getting a few pennies.

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I wish I was older. If I was, I would definitely set aside some money and donate. But Bioxx and Dunk have spent countless hours on this, and I agree that people should think about donating if they can. :D

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The money made from donations is evenly split between the team. I.E. Dunk gets half and Bioxx gets half. Currently the other people helping out with the mod are mostly doing minor bugfixes, and calculating their "fair share" isn't really worth when the donation amounts are low and they may only be getting a few pennies.

 

That's good to hear. 2 days ago Dunk said this...

 

Should have rephrased that; I don't make any money. The donation money goes directly into Bioxx's paypal account, although last time I asked him, it had been a few months since anyone had donated. I'm still in school and Bioxx is currently out of work, so I really don't mind if he takes the donations.

 

 

And I took that to mean he doesn't make any money off of it.

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The money made from donations is evenly split between the team. I.E. Dunk gets half and Bioxx gets half. Currently the other people helping out with the mod are mostly doing minor bugfixes, and calculating their "fair share" isn't really worth when the donation amounts are low and they may only be getting a few pennies.

Oh, how I wish it were so. I don't see a cent of the donations  :(

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Ask and ye did receive.... truly my pleasure to help :)

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This reminds me of DF donations.  Toady publishes monthly donation figures, and people flock to donate.  Dunk mentions donation figures once, and the same thing happens.  Mod authors, take note.

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Build 78 is out and it's awesome. Think about donating to the developers. B)

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My biggest gripe with Vanilla Minecraft is that despite being one of the most successful games of all time ($330 million in 2013 with a skeleton crew), development is GLACIAL. Then we have this mod, this nearly complete overhaul of Minecraft, being rapidly developed for virtually nothing. I can't wrap my brain around this. I'm still new to TFC. If the mid-end game holds me, donation will be inc.

 

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I actually talked to spanser a couple of weeks ago about getting my own donation button. Still hasn't happened yet :P

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i'm kinda glad there is now a big green button. if there was a way to donate before, it wasn't very noticeable.

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So now that Dunk and Bioxx have separate big green DONATE buttons on the top of the forums, I have a small question.

 

How do you guys feel about an added link on the sidebar of the wiki, perhaps between "Random Page" and "Help" for wiki related donations to me? I feel really kinda dumb even suggesting it, but it would just be a small link to support all the work I do on the wiki, and not like a big green button at the top of every page. >.>

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So now that Dunk and Bioxx have separate big green DONATE buttons on the top of the forums, I have a small question.

 

How do you guys feel about an added link on the sidebar of the wiki, perhaps between "Random Page" and "Help" for wiki related donations to me? I feel really kinda dumb even suggesting it, but it would just be a small link to support all the work I do on the wiki, and not like a big green button at the top of every page. >.>

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i think it might work better if you guys just have one button and a % split. like how you have to tip out kitchen staff, etc.

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That's what I originally wanted as well, but we went this way because it's simpler. Single transactions direct to the person of your choosing (if for whatever reason you don't want to give money to the other person). Otherwise it would be a donate button that would go to a unified paypal account, and then at specified times (like at the end of every month, or when enough money is donated) we would have to get together and do the math and then do 3 more separate transactions to our individual paypal accounts. This way we each get the donations right away and directly, instead of waiting for the account to gather enough to deem worthy enough to split evenly (more than a few cents to the smaller percentage receiver) without worrying about any extra transaction fees.

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One button would be simpler but whatever you're comfortable with.

 

My buddies and I avoid these transaction costs by just paying a portion of each other's credit cards. There's a cost to transfer X$ to their chequing account but there's no cost to transfer X$ to their credit card account through online bill payment. So if I organize and pay for a camping trip everyone chips in by transferring their share to my credit card free of charge and I have a smaller balance to pay to Visa at the end of the month. We find this simpler.

 

I don't make the rules, I just play by them.

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One button would be simpler but whatever you're comfortable with.

 

My buddies and I avoid these transaction costs by just paying a portion of each other's credit cards. There's a cost to transfer X$ to their chequing account but there's no cost to transfer X$ to their credit card account through online bill payment. So if I organize and pay for a camping trip everyone chips in by transferring their share to my credit card free of charge and I have a smaller balance to pay to Visa at the end of the month. We find this simpler.

 

I don't make the rules, I just play by them.

 

Yes, but a camping trip costs a lot more and is easier to split than a single person deciding to donate $5 to TFC.

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I would throw ya a $20 Kitty. In my opinion, you've become the face of TFC. I don't really know how you guys divide up work, but what I can say is that from my point of view, you do the most PR. Tech support, forum moderation, and getting dunk and bioxx to hear suggestions and stuff from the community makes you an invaluable asset to the mod. Surely worth a few bucks eh?

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Awww, thank you. <3

 

I'm currently working with spAnser to get my own donation button the wiki, I'll post it here once it's done.

 

Edit: There is now a yellow donate button on the main page of the wiki under Updates, News and Events, as well as a "Donate" link on the sidebar.

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Just wanted to ask, how do we decide who gets our donations? I am new to the forums so I'm not sure how the work is divided up but from what I've read so far Bioxx designed the game, Dunk works on it also and Kitty is the PR/helpdesk/wikiwizard?

I'm just going to donate evenly as though there was only one button :P

Thank you all so much for all your hard work, this game has brought a lot of joy to my friends and I.

And now to an actual suggestion, follow up on monthly donations! If nobody donates for months you are working for free. Have a meter or something to remind everyone every once in a while.

Everyone chip in to support your favorite mod!

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First post so I must start w/ saying how much I love TFC. I play w/ my 4 & 6 yo on local lan. We are building great memories together. My 6yo likes to chop down my support beams when I am underneath :-/

 

A lot of modders have moved over to Patreon. What I love about it is that it provides modders and LPers a way to achieve a revenue stream that can build over time. There can also be benefits for achieving certain levels. For example, I have access to a server Eyamaz maintains for his Blood n Bones pack on FTB. That alone is worth maybe $10/mo and he has to maintain the server anyway for testing purposes.

 

Another benefit is that you can see how much people are getting each month. This would provide TFC donors the ability to donate to Dunk or Bioxx or Kitty disproportionately. CC is only charged one time each month. 

 

PS: I'm just a user of Patreon, no other affiliation.

 

In the meantime I am heading off to donate via Paypal!

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