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theubie

[TFC 0.79.22] Alloy Calculator (Now with Android Version!)

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I just tried to smelt 8 native copper nuggets with 2 small cassiterite, as per the calculator's recommendation. It didn't work. Is this a bug in the calculator, or my mental faculties?

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8 Copper Nuggets = 80 units of copper

2 small cassiterite = 20 units of tin

 

Bronze is 92-88% Copper and 12-8% tin, so that wouldn't work.  Just popped that into the calc and it shows Unknown like it should.

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at first I thought you must be right, as I am often guilty of doing dumb things. I went to check it though, and... well, here's a screenshot.

 

[edit] nope, totally not a screenshot. See? dumb things ;)

 

[editedit] ok, I might be smrter now...

 

[edit3] nope. no smrter. How about this?

 

oh, I'm not allowed to post "that image extension".

 

Well, I dunno. 

 

http://imgur.com/7OyYndD

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Those aren't nuggets.  That is normal sized Native Copper.  25 units a piece, instead of 10 for the nuggets.

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Ahh! Thanks! Now that I've messed aboot with the different sizes of ores, I see what a huge difference that makes. It seems really obvious, but it just didn't occur to me, as all I wanted was a freakin' pick.

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What will be awesome is that you're able to choose a certain amount of ores [For example: Tin, Zinc, Bismuth, Copper, Gold, Silver] in a specific amount or size, and the calculator can tell you what alloys you can do.

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When (if?) I get around to writing the more advanced crucible interface that is something that's planned.

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Nice job, saves a bunch of time when your trying to work out large amounts of stuff. Epically useful when your new to the mod as well as you can just select an ore and instantly see what you can make with it.

 

Thanks!

 

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Updated main post to add in usage statement.

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If you're talking about the offline version:  No install.  Just unzip and run in the directory.

 

The online version doesn't need an install...just go to the webpage.

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Theubie, I'm getting a problem loading page error.  Is the site down?

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Theubie, I'm getting a problem loading page error.  Is the site down?

Sites dead for me also.  Probably just a temporary issue give it some time.

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Yes, actually the site is down at the moment.  Upgrading the server software and doing some general maintenance on my dedicated server/domains.  Should be back in 24-48 hours depending on how badly upgrading CentOS goes.

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Going to 7?  I never had problems from 5 to 6, I'm curious to hear if you have any real issues.

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Actually going form 5 to 6.  Had a mishap or two along the way and it took a lot longer to get everything back up and running.

 

Doesn't help that I'm also writing an MMO which relies heavily on php/MySQL and we jumped from php4 to php5.  Had endless startup issues that had to be fixed by rewriting code that no longer worked or that threw warnings when run.

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Nice! This is great. Although ... sometimes I like the suspense of picking up my freshly-smelted clay vessel and hoping with all my heart that my math was correct the instant I'm about to open it.

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Just a quick update...I haven't had any major time to work on this, but it remain up for use as long as people need it.  I'll get around to compiling the current version into node webkit this weekend and putting up an updated "offline" version if I get a chance.

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Offline for me as well; drats. ):
*gets out the calculator again~*

 

EDIT: Alternative can be found/used here! 
https://docs.google.com/a/lifesriver.net/uc?id=0B1HOu-yhacFrMHM0NTFIS3ltSTg&export=download

https://docs.google.com/a/lifesriver.net/uc?id=0B1HOu-yhacFrMHM0NTFIS3ltSTg&export=download

Modified/Unlocked .xls of this topic: http://terrafirmacraft.com/f/topic/5440-alloy-calculator/

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Just thought I would chime in, but the site is working absolutely perfectly for me with no problems, even after doing a hard reset of the page. I don't know if there is some cache that the hard reset isn't clearing or something, but yeah.

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