Why bother?!

[Teranz 37]

Why bother?!

[Zedek 1]

With all those nice pictures you'd figure you would have run a spell check at least once...

[Teranz 37]

Sorry i'm dislexic...

[Teranz 37]

And im guessing you mean the pciture which should say Requirements... It probably cos my finger slipped onto T....

[Jointertron 10]

"True dyslexia is much broader than simply confusing or transposing letters, for example mistaking â€b†and “d.".

In general, symptoms of DRD may include:

• Difficulty determining the meaning (idea content) of a simple sentence
• Difficulty learning to recognize written words
• Difficulty rhyming"

Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm....lth/PMH0002379/

Please do not use learning disabilities as an excuse for poor typing, bad spelling and being to lazy to fix you're mistakes. It takes away from the seriousness of the actual disability and is insulting to people who actually have it. If you actually had dyslexia you would have misspelled almost every word on the page, including the small ones. Also, first you said you were dyslexic and then immediately posted again saying that it was a typo. Learn to admit when you make a mistake instead of blaming it on something else.

I am sorry if this came across as rude or that I am trying to be mean but that's not how it is. I'm just getting tired of seeing this happen. People make mistakes and instead of learning from them they just blame it on something that is out of their control so that they:

A: never have to try to learn from their mistake.

B: Don't hurt their ego.

This is a major issue in our society, especially with young children who get labeled with learning disorders when they don't really have them. All this does is create entire generations of people who think that they cannot improve themselves because there is something wrong with them.

My point is that by saying that you are dyslexic when you clearly aren't having the issues that a dyslexic person has you are simply selling yourself short. Dyslexia is primarily a reading disorder. Spelling is primarily memory work, you memorize how words are spelled. i have a friend who is actually dyslexic and he can spell better than me, but he has a very hard time reading. He can write an essay with almost no spelling mistakes, but if you asked him to read if after he was done he would have a very hard time doing so.

TLDR:

You blamed the wrong disability for you spelling error. Next time if you want to use a disorder for an excuse please use one that actually fits the thing that you are trying to excuse (eg. I wasn't paying attention or I didn't proof read my post would have actually made sense).

[Teranz 37]

Dyslexia also covers spelling disorder their are a few types of dislexia.

[RogueHydra 32]

I don't mean to derail the topic but my dad's dyslexic and oh my god @_@ It's amazing he's even made it as a classical musician and composer but the dyslexia does lend itself to his artistry. Coming up with completely runic looking alphabets was one of the more interesting things he's done (and able to read it normally like it was a second language). He didn't just have issues with "b" vs "d" either. Letters would blend together and everything. He was ridiculed throughout his highschool and erlier days. I don't think he actually came to grips with it till he was in his early twenties or my age.

[BloodravenD 7]

Dyslexia also covers spelling disorder their are a few types of dislexia.

No it certainly doesn't. If you actually looked into it, It only covers reading, not writing. Again, just another excuse for poor proof reading. Also most internet browsers have some sort of spell check.

On topic, I'm sure you won't get many people to join you with those requirements. You should have much more strict requirements. For example, your age range is way too low. Anyone who has played any sort of online game knows that anyone under 16-17 is extremely immature. Obviously this could be a case by case basis, but generally people don't want to hear or talk with "Squeakers" either. Skype is actually a more resource hogging way of communication. I'd suggest using Ventrilo, Mumble, or Teamspeak for that. It might take a bit to set up, but with a little learning, it shouldn't be too difficult.

I'd also suggest you have a forum or something set up, especially if you are trying to become a gaming community and not just a guild/clan etc...I can't think of any off the top of my head, but there are free forums you can use. Also 5-10 people, which is what you currently have, doesn't constitute as a community, or at the very least it's a minor one.

[daveboy2000 16]

I have dysortography, which practically is spelling dyslexia, and i rarely make obvious errors like that, so i suppose you are lying about that.

In fact, it works on how you have learned to read/spell, often dyslexia and its variants are caused by our very educative system, the digital-audiotive system, proper for people who think using their left brain, about 40 percent of all people nowedays. the people with a left-brained system, using their visual and kinestic systems cannot learn that way, and because of that often confuse letters in the alphabeth, like the b and the d, have other symptoms of dyslexia, and often are labeled with AD(H)D. The point is, people with dyslexia, often use a phonetic (<-- the irony) version of the word if they didn't learn it correctly. Ways learn those words properly is to visually throw away the wrong word using a imaginary garbage bin, and put the good word on an imaginary blackboard, or a computer screen or anything in that direction actually.

Thats practically the treatment i'm getting, and after the first fucking session it was much easier to remember stuff xD

and sorry if i'm being rude, but its true.

[Lordy 0]

No it certainly doesn't. If you actually looked into it, It only covers reading, not writing. Again, just another excuse for poor proof reading. Also most internet browsers have some sort of spell check.

Fairly certain there is a kind of dyslexia that covers having problems with spelling since I have that kind of predicatment. It has a different name in my native language, but the only translation I seem to find is Dyslexia.

Also I'm fairly sure that the discussion of dyslexia and Clans does not fit in a subforum with the description - General talk about TerraFirmaCraft should be posted here.

[Graknorke 1]

While I have little but opinion to contribute on the discussion regarding disablilites, I would like to say that I find Bllodraven's assumption that

anyone under 16-17 is extremely immature..

to be rather offensive. I am 14 years old and I mind and consider my behaviour both normally and on the internet to make sure that I don't do anything that could be seen as insulting or upsetting to others.

If anything, the least sensible and most infantile people I've ever seen have been drunk; and I doubt that you've seen many drunk children under the age of 16 (especially in the USA, with the higher drinking age).

[novemberman 2]

"True dyslexia is much broader than simply confusing or transposing letters, for example mistaking â€b†and “d.".

In general, symptoms of DRD may include:

• Difficulty determining the meaning (idea content) of a simple sentence
• Difficulty learning to recognize written words
• Difficulty rhyming"

Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm....lth/PMH0002379/

Please do not use learning disabilities as an excuse for poor typing, bad spelling and being to lazy to fix you're mistakes. It takes away from the seriousness of the actual disability and is insulting to people who actually have it. If you actually had dyslexia you would have misspelled almost every word on the page, including the small ones. Also, first you said you were dyslexic and then immediately posted again saying that it was a typo. Learn to admit when you make a mistake instead of blaming it on something else.

I am sorry if this came across as rude or that I am trying to be mean but that's not how it is. I'm just getting tired of seeing this happen. People make mistakes and instead of learning from them they just blame it on something that is out of their control so that they:

A: never have to try to learn from their mistake.

B: Don't hurt their ego.

This is a major issue in our society, especially with young children who get labeled with learning disorders when they don't really have them. All this does is create entire generations of people who think that they cannot improve themselves because there is something wrong with them.

My point is that by saying that you are dyslexic when you clearly aren't having the issues that a dyslexic person has you are simply selling yourself short. Dyslexia is primarily a reading disorder. Spelling is primarily memory work, you memorize how words are spelled. i have a friend who is actually dyslexic and he can spell better than me, but he has a very hard time reading. He can write an essay with almost no spelling mistakes, but if you asked him to read if after he was done he would have a very hard time doing so.

TLDR:

You blamed the wrong disability for you spelling error. Next time if you want to use a disorder for an excuse please use one that actually fits the thing that you are trying to excuse (eg. I wasn't paying attention or I didn't proof read my post would have actually made sense).

dude STFU

[BloodravenD 7]

While I have little but opinion to contribute on the discussion regarding disablilites, I would like to say that I find Bllodraven's assumption that

to be rather offensive. I am 14 years old and I mind and consider my behaviour both normally and on the internet to make sure that I don't do anything that could be seen as insulting or upsetting to others.

If anything, the least sensible and most infantile people I've ever seen have been drunk; and I doubt that you've seen many drunk children under the age of 16 (especially in the USA, with the higher drinking age).

I wasn't saying it to be offensive, I was stating a fact. The majority of the time, they're immature. Yes drunks are bad, but I was basing it on his age limit he wanted. Of course you would find that offensive because of your age. You wouldn't if you were say 18 or 19. As with anything though, there are people who don't fit the mould and are an exception.

[Jointertron 10]

dude STFU

Lol you're still butthurt because I banned you XD.

[Graknorke 1]

I wasn't saying it to be offensive, I was stating a fact. The majority of the time, they're immature. Yes drunks are bad, but I was basing it on his age limit he wanted. Of course you would find that offensive because of your age. You wouldn't if you were say 18 or 19. As with anything though, there are people who don't fit the mould and are an exception.

I was really looking more at the word "anyone", as in, you were saying it as a straight-up fact that you could pick any person under the age of 16-17 and you would find them to be immature.

As well as that, I don't actually think that I would say the same were I older, if not just because I've always viewed grouping people together like that as being stupid and nonsensical. In the same way as the general public view racists as being wrong. It doesn't make sense and I don't see any reason why I would want to encourage it any more than it already is.

This might be because of when I was relatively young (about five) and I had quite a few friends around two years older and they all pretty much started shunning me at once as they moved up schools. I thought it was silly and have made a concious decision to not do that.

So I probably wouldn't.

[DarkLadyPhoenix 62]

So a good rule of thumb should be, "Don't have the person with the reading/writing disability do the recruiting."?

Seriously, it looks bad on you and your group if you can't write worth a damn. Good reasons or no, this just sounds like an excuse.

Putting in an age requirement then putting fourth a foot that says, "I may not be educated either" makes your group (that is what you are typing for) look quite hypocritical.

In addition, I find this recruiting poster a bit... inappropriate? Maybe I'm the only one who finds it slightly offensive and at the very least rude to be promoting other popular games to a community that has what, 50 members? Maybe a few hundered if you want to count the more casual players? It could be just me though.

[RogueHydra 32]

So a good rule of thumb should be, "Don't have the person with the reading/writing disability do the recruiting."?

Seriously, it looks bad on you and your group if you can't write worth a damn. Good reasons or no, this just sounds like an excuse.

Putting in an age requirement then putting fourth a foot that says, "I may not be educated either" makes your group (that is what you are typing for) look quite hypocritical.

That's quite a narrow way of thinking. Just because a person has a disability with reading and writing does NOT mean they may not be educated and is certainly not age related either. Someone can make a few spelling mistakes and still write in a VERY mature way and in a very intelligent manner. It's not an excuse, it's a problem some people deal with for their entire life and get ridiculed for as much as someone that has lesser mental capacities. My father dealt with people calling him retarded and stupid through a great deal of his entire early schooling career yet he tested less than 10 points below genious on his IQ tests. And it certainly does not hinder someone's ability to be a good judge of character.

[BloodravenD 7]

I was really looking more at the word "anyone", as in, you were saying it as a straight-up fact that you could pick any person under the age of 16-17 and you would find them to be immature.

As well as that, I don't actually think that I would say the same were I older, if not just because I've always viewed grouping people together like that as being stupid and nonsensical. In the same way as the general public view racists as being wrong. It doesn't make sense and I don't see any reason why I would want to encourage it any more than it already is.

This might be because of when I was relatively young (about five) and I had quite a few friends around two years older and they all pretty much started shunning me at once as they moved up schools. I thought it was silly and have made a concious decision to not do that.

So I probably wouldn't.

Well I myself give people chances, and more often than not, they prove me right about it. Again I'm going on personal experiences, I've run guilds and clans and I know how things often end up. I agree that generalizing isn't always a good thing, but there is usually some truth to it. Also like I said before, there are always exceptions.

That's quite a narrow way of thinking. Just because a person has a disability with reading and writing does NOT mean they may not be educated and is certainly not age related either. Someone can make a few spelling mistakes and still write in a VERY mature way and in a very intelligent manner. It's not an excuse, it's a problem some people deal with for their entire life and get ridiculed for as much as someone that has lesser mental capacities. My father dealt with people calling him retarded and stupid through a great deal of his entire early schooling career yet he tested less than 10 points below genious on his IQ tests. And it certainly does not hinder someone's ability to be a good judge of character.

Do you realize that he had at first tried to blame it on dyslexia, then in the next post put that it was just typos? A intelligent person would know the difference between the two. I know for me I don't discriminate if they do have a learning disability, I have friends who do have dyslexia or some other issue they have to work with, but as a "recruiter" for their community, they probably should've put a little more effort in who wrote things up.

[RogueHydra 32]

True true, good point, but the "requitements" really could be a typo and unrelated to the dyslexia, it's only circumstancial - and it was the only instance he said it was a typo and not dyslexia. But I do see a gramatical error here and there in the OP and I'm not disagreeing with you, but you can't prove that he doesn't have dyslexia. Spell check doesn't catch typing errors in graphics (though Photoshop does have a spell check feature). He might not have dyslexia for all I know.

[DarkLadyPhoenix 62]

My point was, I don't care if he does or not. This world is all about appeareances. You wouldn't go to a movie or read a book if it contained a bunch of typos would you? What would you think about the author? Would you think, "Boy this guy dosen't know what he's talking about" or would you seriously just say, "Oh, I bet he has a disability that makes him type or communicate poorly so I'll jsut keep reading anyway and keep slogging through."?

I don't join guilds that don't look like they know what they're talking about. This is pretty basic stuff.

It's a better idea to have someone else do the recruiting- maybe someone whose strong point is writing? Sorry to be so blunt but if you're not skilled at something, then do something you're skilled at instead. A fish will spend it's entire life feeling inadequate if all it focuses on is it's ability to climb trees.

[Jointertron 10]

True true, good point, but the "requitements" really could be a typo and unrelated to the dyslexia, it's only circumstancial - and it was the only instance he said it was a typo and not dyslexia. But I do see a gramatical error here and there in the OP and I'm not disagreeing with you, but you can't prove that he doesn't have dyslexia. Spell check doesn't catch typing errors in graphics (though Photoshop does have a spell check feature). He might not have dyslexia for all I know.

Actually I pretty much proved that he doesn't have dyslexia by posting the definition of dyslexia with source, (which shows that it is a READING disorder not a spelling disorder) and he himself claimed it was a typo one minute after he said he was dyslexic. Also, I have a friend who is actually dyslexic and he can spell just fine, like I already said. He just can't read well.

I was not making fun of this Teranz guy or trying to put him down. In fact I was telling him to give himself more credit. When you use a disability that you do not have as an excuse you prevent yourself from improving. It is a way of putting up a barrier for yourself, if you have dyslexia then you will always have problems reading unless you have very specific things in place to aid you. If Teranz does have some kind of learning disability it is not dyslexia. However, I would assume that he is not disabled and has the ability to improve. Like I said before, saying you are disabled when you are not only gives rise to the ignorant comments that people with actual disabilities get. Like being called retarded and other ignorant and mean things that some people say. My friend has had people say "Oh you're dyslexic? So you can't spell or you read backwards?" This makes him feel singled out and stupid.

What I guess I'm trying to say, and sorry for rambling, is this:

Teranz as far as i can tell there is nothing wrong with you. So don't cheat yourself by claiming to be disabled. Everyone has the same potential and that includes you. So next time if someone makes a comment about your spelling say: "Oh thanks, I didn't notice that. It must have been a typo and now that I see it I can fix it." Not only does this show that you can take constructive criticism, but I allows you to see the mistake and fix it, which in turn improves your spelling. Making a mistake is nothing to be ashamed of, it's how we learn and get better at things.

[RogueHydra 32]

P.S. I've noticed my auto-spell check doesn't work in these quick reply boxes.

[Jivix 21]

This is an awful discussion/flamewar about someones condition T_T

What was this thread even supposed to be about? Can anyone answer me that?

[DarkLadyPhoenix 62]

I'm sure you can figure it out if you read all the responses.

[Deez 47]

This is an awful discussion/flamewar about someones condition T_T

What was this thread even supposed to be about? Can anyone answer me that?

The OP was trying to recruit for a faction/guild/group, he had copypasta'd his thread from the Minecraft forums. Apparently people had a problem with him claiming to be disabled as an excuse for poor spelling and grammar.