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Darmo

Racoon *FINAL*

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Here's a racoon model I've worked up.  I made enough of a texture to show the general idea for the face, but I'm mostly interested in thoughts on the model.  I could try to make the body more hunched.  But I thought this got the idea across while keeping things fairly simple.  The rear leg haunches are a single piece, like in the rat, and don't move - just the four leg posts would move, as far as legs go. 

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I like the overall shape of the head. However the body seems a bit thick. Raccoons tend to get a thick coat in the colder months that makes them look very fat, but they really aren't fat creatures usually. That said, if we slim the body at all, it may make the head look too big so this shape is probably acceptable.

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I made a few small adjustments to the model here to reduce the fatness of the model. I slimmed the body and haunch boxes so that they were smaller. This gives off a smaller vibe without making the head seem too over-sized IMO. I lowered the main body so that it is slightly below the head. Having the body lower to the ground makes the model seem small. This model might even look better if the body was 1 pixel wider.

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To me that looks too small Alpha.  Maybe the google images I'm looking at are all fat city-racoons (I tried to ignore the more obese ones), but their heads are mostly kind of small compared to their bodies.   What you've got there, the cheeks are actually much wider than the body itself.  I don't think I saw a single rl photo with that kind of proportion.   I mean I hear what Bioxx was saying, but I think your version may be a bit overboard.  I was going to try making the body shallow by 1 pixel, and see how that looked...

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You're correct, the shape of the head is good, but maybe the scale of it is the issue? Honestly tho, that's something that I can handle with a simple GL call in game.

Heres a good thin raccoon photo.

I think the model in V2 here will probably look perfectly fine once textured, and if need be, I can scale the head down to like 80-90% of its current size.

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Apologies about the photo Darmo. The photo that I linked was an older version that I scrapped as being too thin. I forgot that the picture I put in the post and described was an old print-screen. The download is correct however. While I still did some slimming of the model it is not as severe as that photo above. I attached a comparison between your V1 model and my actual V2 model below. The head alone could still use some scaling on Bioxx's side of the equation but otherwise the model is still fairly close to your original.

 

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Ok, that's definitely better.  Guess I should have opened the model, not just relied on the screenshot. 

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Updated thinner body style, texture now has noise and tail stripes.  I attempted black feet but thought they looked too much like hooves.  It didn't seem like racoons have a lot of different shades on their underbelly or anything, so aside from the lighter face, the fur is fairly uniform.  Thoughts?

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So I guess this one's done then, if nobody had any further comment.

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