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Darmo

Llama by Therighthon *FINAL*

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Therighthon has done a really good llama model and texture in application to join the team.  This is a dual-mode model, with both wooly and shorn textures.  There's 7 separate wool boxes - 4 legs, body, neck, and head - which all disappear when shorn, so it goes quite a bit further than the vanilla sheep. He's made a lot of progress from initial go, and I think the end result is very good.  The shorn llama looks so skinny and goofy, I think it's great! 

LlamaScreencapShorn.jpgLlamaScreencapWooly.jpg

Llama.MCModel

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I like it. Contributor status given.

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Here are a few of the alternate textures I have been working on. I added some shading to the all-black and all-brown coats since I last sent them over.

Ll1.pngLl2.pngLl3.pngLl5.pngLl4.pngLl6.pngLl7.png

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Lookin good.  I still think the grey one has a bit too much noise on the upper part perhaps.  There's some really dark patches, and a lot of noise in general. 

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I am loving all these textures for the Llama. They really make the animal feel so much more diverse. The usage of the transparent box to create a shaggy coat for the Llama adds a lot to the texture. We have a question to ask about the sheared texture though... If you look at a picture of a sheared sheep in Minecraft, the sheared variant is not a clean cut (Attached Below). The texture is really patchy. Do we want to change the sheep texture to have a clean cut in TFC2? Or do we want to add the patchiness to the Llama textures?

Sheep_(Sheared).png

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8 minutes ago, Th3A1ph4D0g said:

I am loving all these textures for the Llama. They really make the animal feel so much more diverse. The usage of the transparent box to create a shaggy coat for the Llama adds a lot to the texture. We have a question to ask about the sheared texture though... If you look at a picture of a sheared sheep in Minecraft, the sheared variant is not a clean cut (Attached Below). The texture is really patchy. Do we want to change the sheep texture to have a clean cut in TFC2? Or do we want to add the patchiness to the Llama textures?

Sheep_(Sheared).png

Yeah, I was thinking about that when I made the texture. I personally prefer the smoother look, and to just have it be a color change, but I could re-texture it to be scraggly if you all would prefer it. I am not too particular about it either way, and the patchy texture is convenient on sheep because you can tell if they have been shorn or not at a glance.

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Go ahead and make a scraggly looking texture. It will be interesting to see what it looks like. 

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If it were up to me, we'd replace the vanilla sheep entirely.  It just isn't a good model, like all vanilla models.  To me most shorn animal pictures look very smooth, so I'm pretty ok with the shorn textures as they are.  It seems like in most cases the skin underneath matches the color of the fur pretty close.  There's actually google pics of shorn llamas with spotted skin.  My 2cents.

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2 hours ago, Darmo said:

If it were up to me, we'd replace the vanilla sheep entirely.  It just isn't a good model, like all vanilla models.  To me most shorn animal pictures look very smooth, so I'm pretty ok with the shorn textures as they are.  It seems like in most cases the skin underneath matches the color of the fur pretty close.  There's actually google pics of shorn llamas with spotted skin.  My 2cents.

Seconded on replacing the sheep model, the shorn version is kinda hideous. If you apply the texture of a shorn sheep to the shorn llama, it looks like this. I am not a huge fan, though it would probably be better if I actually put effort into it.
UglyLlama.png

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My curiosity about the shorn texture has been sated. The default version is really just super ugly. I guess I just got used to it after 4-5 years of playing Vanilla MineCraft. Your original shorn texture is much better then this one that is modeled off the sheep. We are probably better off re-modeling the vanilla sheep as Darmo suggested earlier. 

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Darmo, here is the smoothed out version of the Black and White texture.
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LlamaWhiteBlack.png

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I think you can probably put *FINAL* on this one Therighthon

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lol, woops, forgot about that detail!

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