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ciekma

modpack WIP [TFC-0.79.29] TerraFirmaProgressivePack

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After many days of testing and tweaking, I present new version of TFPP: 1.30.

Two new mods are introduced: Hardcore Darkness and Enviromine.

Hardcore Darkness make real black darkness during new moon or in caves, no gamma cheating. But thanks to the Dynamic Lights mod, no need to put torches everywhere, you can carry torch as portable light, you can also drop torch to enlighten cave or ravine bed. You can also use Hard Hat as portable light source, very convenient during mining when you cannot keep torch in hand.

darkness.jpg?raw=true

 

Enviromine brings some challenges to the game:

  1. Sanity decreases, when was hurt or exposed to the monsters in dark caves, it will recover during day if you see open sky, you can also drink alcoholic beverages or lemonade to recover your sanity (remember, don't overdose alcohol).
  2.  Air quality decreases, when fire sources, lava or engines are located in enclosed room/cave/mine, if depleted, you will suffocate. You can improve air quality using respirator or placing leaves blocks/saplings. Vertical shaft to the open sky also helps a lot.
  3. Block physics affect most of blocks, except TFC igneous rocks, glowstone, vanilla logs (made from olive soaked TFC logs), reinforced foam, railcraft metal platform and some multiblock machines.

There are following tiers of block endurance, which affect maximal span of bridge, roof or other hanging structure:

1. sand-like (log pile, pumpkins)

2. loose - 2 blocks span (thatch, cobblestone and smooth stone walls, vanilla cobblestone, mud bricks, clay)

3. average - 4 blocks span (ordinary wood planks, road bricks, sedimentary rocks, smooth stones)

4. strong - 8 blocks span (olive or creosote treated wood planks, stone bricks, vanilla bricks and wool, carpenter blocks, TFC logs, metal structures, concrete etc).

Rules of thumb is: cheap/easy bocks are weak, expensive are better.

Here is an example:

differentspans.jpg?raw=truef

from bottom left to top right: cobblestone, arched cobblestone, wood planks, arched wood planks, logs, olive treated logs, chalk stone, concrete with different configurations.

Note, that above spans in tier list are for single lane of blocks, wide/thick structure is stronger. For example, thicker bridge can have larger span between supports, and making arches would save some building material:

arcbridge.jpg?raw=true

 

Of course Enviromine physics is not applied to the block already handled by TFC physics, such gravel, cobblestone, dirt, and ignenous rocks. I tested it both in singleplayer and multiplayer mode and it works fine.

 

 

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Wipe the old world does not need to do?

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No need to wipe, I'm still using my old worlds in SP and MP.

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New version 1.34 is available. Besides of new TFC Primitive Technology mod and some fixes and recipe tweaks, I changed simple Achievements mod to Achivements Books mod - the latter one works properly on SMP, each player can have own diary, not a common one.

For those wondering how to make ship block, IHL manual book is not craftable, but is added to zombie engineer and zombie messenger drop list. Such approach is to avoid players making long bridges from cheap tiny ship blocks, which can levitate (not only a cheat, but also would lag a server).

No need to wipe worlds, just type /nml confirm on server start.

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After the update, errors appear. The folder of scripts and config updated

After the update, errors appear. The folErrors.png

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Seems that you forgot to update mod folder. Delete tfcprimitive mod v.02 and replace with v.03

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Thank you. Sorry for the trouble - my inattention, did not see the changed version of the mod

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I'm comparing the mods folder before updating, it's just overlooked here

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