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    • Crysyn

      Only help if you can be helpful

      Hey All, A topic has come up of late in the IRC channel in regards to the general feel of the forums and the community that supports them. Things have progressed further than I would have liked with out this being addressed more publicly because I would much rather have snubbed this out sooner rather than later.. but I have been busy. Here is the general rule I would like people to follow: Wheaton's Law "Don't be a dick." Those of you from the IRC channel know that this is the only rule I ask people in there to follow and we generally have a good and lively time chatting about all manner of things. This is basic rule that just about everyone understands and I am going to expand it to the forums from here moving forward. If you can not help people in a helpful and polite manner then I simply ask you to stop. Now I generally take a back seat to moderating the forums as I like to participate in the suggestions forum fairly heavily at times and would rather do so as a forums user than a moderator. But I am also fairly well known for being the person who constantly puts their foot down and so I am stepping up and doing so on here. If you find yourself unable to respond to a message politely then I ask that you do not respond. This mostly focuses on the increasing level of hostility found within the Suggestion forum as well as the Server forum. I do not care if this is the 30th some odd time you have seen someone make the same suggestion. Or even if the new post on an older topic is one entry above the old one. I expect the members of this forum to respond politely to the user, new or old, and point to the older topic if it applies and even go the extra step to suggest they either add in new information or to summarize the outcome of the previous discussion based upon the new post's entry into it. That is what we are here for, that is why I close most topics instead of deleting them, so that they can be found and referenced down the road. The next topic is the slew of derailment attempts I have seen as of late. If you want to have fun and joke around that is what the off topic forum is for and pretty much anything goes there. I do not expect to read a suggestion thread and have to go through 3 pages of image memes people have shot back and forth. Quite simply this is a waste of my time to read and then have to clean up. Now for the summary. I am going to start taking a more active role, especially in policing the suggestion forum, and handing out warn levels to people whom I see doing this. These will be indiscriminate and applied not to just the first person who derails or is impolite on a topic or response, but to everyone whom follows the lead of that person. As I do not like doing things with out giving you all warning this post shall serve as that warning. If you have a desire to bring this topic up with me then I invite you to do so on the IRC channel. Lets raise the level of quality and grow the community. Let us not descend into the quality often found on the minecraft or league of legend forums. There is simply no need for that here. Be passionate about things, just do not be abusive.
    • Kittychanley

      Offline Servers

      Recently I've seen a few server listings showing up on the first page of the Servers forum that have been closed for an extended period of time, but have recently gotten a reply from a new member who didn't realize the server is offline. To help prevent this from happening in the future, it would be greatly appreciated if you could use the report function on the original post of any servers that have been confirmed as offline, so that the topic may be locked. If you are the admin of a server and plan on taking the server offline, please use the report function on the original post of your topic to let the TFC Staff know that the topic should be locked. If you are the admin of a server that has a locked topic, and would wish to bring the server back online, please use the report function on the original post of the topic to let the TFC Staff know that the topic should be unlocked. As always, please remember to follow rule #3 of the servers forum and update your topic title to contain the version of TFC that the server is currently running. You can do so by editing the OP, and then clicking on "Use Full Editor."
RandomASCII

Questions About The Model Creator

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I know what you're thinking, "this isn't really off topic". And if I was right about your thinking being that, you're right. Problem is, I had no idea where I should post this.

To get to the point, I've not been terribly active on the forums due to things that came up which would probably be best discussed in depth elsewhere. The first things I noticed are the edition of a download link for an "MC Model Creator". and a topic on "development" of TFC 2. The Development section seems to just be contributions for models using this MC Model Creator tool. Thankfully, most of this is self explanatory. Based on what I could find on the forums, it's just a model creation tool used to create animal models for TFC2. There's three things I could not find over the course of searching the forum for an hour. Could this be incompetence on my part? Sure. I don't deny that possibility. I just don't want it to seem like I'm making a post about something I put zero effort into figuring out myself.

The three things I never got an answer for are as follows: When was the decision made to start using this tool? How does one qualify to use it? (what little I could gather from individual posts implied that work on these models is not open to the public, but is open to whoever is approved by one of the devs) Was this something that was made by the TFC devs themselves, or is this a 3rd party tool the devs have decided to use for mod development?

Again, forgive me if this is supposed to be common knowledge and I've somehow missed something obvious. I'm a bit taken aback by the effort I put into looking for information, only for it to seem like something that magically appeared if I didn't know better.

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Bioxx decided to create the tool when he first started working on mobs for TFC2. There really weren't any other good alternatives out there for the Minecraft 1.8 rendering, so it was easier to just make his own. You are welcome to make your own models and submit them via private message for approval. You will likely have better luck getting a response if you send your message to Darmo instead of just to Bioxx or myself.

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Hi RandomASCII.  I'm overseeing the modeling efforts for TFC2.  I'm not a dev - I can't code - but I can do models and textures.  After Dunk left I volunteered to help make models for TFC2, and now I'm spearheading this modeling stuff so Bioxx and Kitty can focus on what they do best - coding.   Bioxx gave me the authority to handle vetting of new volunteers, and direct the artistic effort - several other excellent modelers have joined since then.  But it *is* an application process, not just any submission is accepted.   You should pm me and I'll fill you in on the requirements.  If you haven't already, you should read the MCMC tutorial, and texturing tutorial, in this MCMC forum.   You will also want to read the TFC2 modeling guidelines post.

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Thanks, @Kittychanley and @Darmo, for the clarification. I've got a few ideas in mind that I might be able to take a crack at. So far, my only complaint about MCMC is what seems to be the ability to modify the shape of the blocks with the mouse instead of manually entering dimensions into the keyboard, but that's only what I gathered from playing around for a minute without actually RTFM'ing before I went in. I would say something about the apparent use of DirectX 11, since WINE doesn't yet have complete support for that, but I thought I remembered Bioxx is working on a Linux build, so I don't have a reason to complain. Thankfully, the iGPU in the one Windows device I still own is enough for this, so it's not stopping me from making models.

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11 hours ago, RandomASCII said:

So far, my only complaint about MCMC is what seems to be the ability to modify the shape of the blocks with the mouse instead of manually entering dimensions into the keyboard

You can do both.   You can manually enter the numbers, and you can also click on a number field and drag the mouse up or down to raise or lower the number.   If you meant actually drag the shape borders in the modeling window, no, it doesn't have that.  Also the click and drag only changes it by whole numbers, not decimals.   There's a few other minor quirks, but it's still the best option out there that I've seen.

I would suggest contacting me before getting too far into a model.  We have done quite a lot of animals already - including several that were pre-development-forum, so you won't find them there.  If you contact me and let me know what you're thinking of doing, I can tell you if any of it has been done.

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