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      Hey All, A topic has come up of late in the IRC channel in regards to the general feel of the forums and the community that supports them. Things have progressed further than I would have liked with out this being addressed more publicly because I would much rather have snubbed this out sooner rather than later.. but I have been busy. Here is the general rule I would like people to follow: Wheaton's Law "Don't be a dick." Those of you from the IRC channel know that this is the only rule I ask people in there to follow and we generally have a good and lively time chatting about all manner of things. This is basic rule that just about everyone understands and I am going to expand it to the forums from here moving forward. If you can not help people in a helpful and polite manner then I simply ask you to stop. Now I generally take a back seat to moderating the forums as I like to participate in the suggestions forum fairly heavily at times and would rather do so as a forums user than a moderator. But I am also fairly well known for being the person who constantly puts their foot down and so I am stepping up and doing so on here. If you find yourself unable to respond to a message politely then I ask that you do not respond. This mostly focuses on the increasing level of hostility found within the Suggestion forum as well as the Server forum. I do not care if this is the 30th some odd time you have seen someone make the same suggestion. Or even if the new post on an older topic is one entry above the old one. I expect the members of this forum to respond politely to the user, new or old, and point to the older topic if it applies and even go the extra step to suggest they either add in new information or to summarize the outcome of the previous discussion based upon the new post's entry into it. That is what we are here for, that is why I close most topics instead of deleting them, so that they can be found and referenced down the road. The next topic is the slew of derailment attempts I have seen as of late. If you want to have fun and joke around that is what the off topic forum is for and pretty much anything goes there. I do not expect to read a suggestion thread and have to go through 3 pages of image memes people have shot back and forth. Quite simply this is a waste of my time to read and then have to clean up. Now for the summary. I am going to start taking a more active role, especially in policing the suggestion forum, and handing out warn levels to people whom I see doing this. These will be indiscriminate and applied not to just the first person who derails or is impolite on a topic or response, but to everyone whom follows the lead of that person. As I do not like doing things with out giving you all warning this post shall serve as that warning. If you have a desire to bring this topic up with me then I invite you to do so on the IRC channel. Lets raise the level of quality and grow the community. Let us not descend into the quality often found on the minecraft or league of legend forums. There is simply no need for that here. Be passionate about things, just do not be abusive.
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      Recently I've seen a few server listings showing up on the first page of the Servers forum that have been closed for an extended period of time, but have recently gotten a reply from a new member who didn't realize the server is offline. To help prevent this from happening in the future, it would be greatly appreciated if you could use the report function on the original post of any servers that have been confirmed as offline, so that the topic may be locked. If you are the admin of a server and plan on taking the server offline, please use the report function on the original post of your topic to let the TFC Staff know that the topic should be locked. If you are the admin of a server that has a locked topic, and would wish to bring the server back online, please use the report function on the original post of the topic to let the TFC Staff know that the topic should be unlocked. As always, please remember to follow rule #3 of the servers forum and update your topic title to contain the version of TFC that the server is currently running. You can do so by editing the OP, and then clicking on "Use Full Editor."
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rohan

Red Steel Problem

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Can anyone tell me what I've done wrong?

Here's the screen shot of my crucible. I'm trying to make red steel for the first time. The brass and rose gold was mixed before hand, poured and cooled into ingots (then sat there for the whole time I was working through the iron tiers), and then added into an empty crucible. The black steel was next and 12 ingots added 1 at a time. The steel was from when I  melted my steel anvil earlier and then poured them into ingots, let them cool/sit until this. I added 4 steel, it shows the correct %'s per the wiki, but doesn't say "weak red steel" above. What did I do wrong?

 

 

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Black Steel is 50-55%. You have 60%

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Thank you, is someone going to fix the wiki? It still says 50-60%. Also I assume ratio of black steel for Blue Steel is also 50-55%?

 

 

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Just fyi, it's a waste of material to use so much black steel.  Black steel should always be the bare minimum, if one cares about efficiency.  In general, baring unusual scarcities, it's best to do everything possible to minimize any material that uses iron.  Especially for red steel.  At best, you'll use 5x as much iron per single ingot of colored steel, as you will the next-most used material, copper.  So economizing iron helps in the long run.

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Yeah - the coloured steels are simply way to expensive, and WAY too time-consuming imho.

I remember spending nearly 2 weeks of game play (admittedly only a few hours per day) to simply get a red steel anvil going, and I already had a black steel one.

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Thank you, but I did something even more crazy. I gathered ALL of the ores needed with my bismuth bronze pick axes and have been on one continuous smithing exercise (with a few small breaks to harvest/plant crops and 1 to get more charcoal) and have been going from stone anvil with no ingots (all tools cast) to now working (hopefully tonight) to get my red steel anvil, bucket, and tools. I've already harvest all of the ore needed.

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Come to think of it though, I might be able to still do 20 ingots batches replacing 2 black steel for 1 extra brass/rose gold for red and 1 extra bismuth bronze/sterling silver. I'll have to see if I have enough ingots left over to support that.

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Yeah a good portion of the wiki is updated, but quite a few aren't still. Pretty much only Kitty can edit wiki, although with approval some can save work pages for her to integrate. However she finished school last spring and is working now, so I don't see any edits forthcoming.

When you run into roadblocks it is best to do what you did and ask here. There are a few around that can give you correct info. 

Also if you have NEI and the TFC NEI plugin you can get correct alloy %s and other TFC specific recipes. 

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