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      Hey All, A topic has come up of late in the IRC channel in regards to the general feel of the forums and the community that supports them. Things have progressed further than I would have liked with out this being addressed more publicly because I would much rather have snubbed this out sooner rather than later.. but I have been busy. Here is the general rule I would like people to follow: Wheaton's Law "Don't be a dick." Those of you from the IRC channel know that this is the only rule I ask people in there to follow and we generally have a good and lively time chatting about all manner of things. This is basic rule that just about everyone understands and I am going to expand it to the forums from here moving forward. If you can not help people in a helpful and polite manner then I simply ask you to stop. Now I generally take a back seat to moderating the forums as I like to participate in the suggestions forum fairly heavily at times and would rather do so as a forums user than a moderator. But I am also fairly well known for being the person who constantly puts their foot down and so I am stepping up and doing so on here. If you find yourself unable to respond to a message politely then I ask that you do not respond. This mostly focuses on the increasing level of hostility found within the Suggestion forum as well as the Server forum. I do not care if this is the 30th some odd time you have seen someone make the same suggestion. Or even if the new post on an older topic is one entry above the old one. I expect the members of this forum to respond politely to the user, new or old, and point to the older topic if it applies and even go the extra step to suggest they either add in new information or to summarize the outcome of the previous discussion based upon the new post's entry into it. That is what we are here for, that is why I close most topics instead of deleting them, so that they can be found and referenced down the road. The next topic is the slew of derailment attempts I have seen as of late. If you want to have fun and joke around that is what the off topic forum is for and pretty much anything goes there. I do not expect to read a suggestion thread and have to go through 3 pages of image memes people have shot back and forth. Quite simply this is a waste of my time to read and then have to clean up. Now for the summary. I am going to start taking a more active role, especially in policing the suggestion forum, and handing out warn levels to people whom I see doing this. These will be indiscriminate and applied not to just the first person who derails or is impolite on a topic or response, but to everyone whom follows the lead of that person. As I do not like doing things with out giving you all warning this post shall serve as that warning. If you have a desire to bring this topic up with me then I invite you to do so on the IRC channel. Lets raise the level of quality and grow the community. Let us not descend into the quality often found on the minecraft or league of legend forums. There is simply no need for that here. Be passionate about things, just do not be abusive.
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      Recently I've seen a few server listings showing up on the first page of the Servers forum that have been closed for an extended period of time, but have recently gotten a reply from a new member who didn't realize the server is offline. To help prevent this from happening in the future, it would be greatly appreciated if you could use the report function on the original post of any servers that have been confirmed as offline, so that the topic may be locked. If you are the admin of a server and plan on taking the server offline, please use the report function on the original post of your topic to let the TFC Staff know that the topic should be locked. If you are the admin of a server that has a locked topic, and would wish to bring the server back online, please use the report function on the original post of the topic to let the TFC Staff know that the topic should be unlocked. As always, please remember to follow rule #3 of the servers forum and update your topic title to contain the version of TFC that the server is currently running. You can do so by editing the OP, and then clicking on "Use Full Editor."
yuri1234565

Server Crashes when Players join

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This post has been automatically generated from a form submission.

Have you read, understood, and followed all of the rules listed in the blue box at the top of this form?: Yes
Topic Title: Server Crashes when Players join
TFC Version #: 0.79.29.922
Forge Version #: 10.13.4.1558
SSP/SMP: Multi Player
Have you deleted your config files or are using default configs and are still able to reproduce this bug?: Yes
Changed Config Options:
Do you have any mods other than Forge and TFC installed?: Yes
Other Mods Installed: Decorations, Leather Water Sac, TerraMisc, TFCAutomatedBellowsAddon, TFCCellarsAddon, archimedesshipsplus, BiblioCraft, BiblioWoods, CodeChickenCore, Farseek, Hats, IChunUtil, Morph, movingworld, PeacefulSurface, Streams
If you have Optifine or a non-forge server plugin api (Examples: Bukkit, Cauldron, Thermos, etc) installed, can you still reproduce the bug after uninstalling them?: no
Crash Report: http://pastebin.com/TGpjbHH3
Description: When ever I try to join my hosted server, the client gets the message "http://imgur.com/39IJ50X". While the server crashes with the error.

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The crash report you provided says that you have Thermos installed. When filling out the form you claimed that you can reproduce the bug after uninstalling thermos. Can you please provide a crash report that's generated when thermos is not installed?

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I'll restate rule #5 that was shown to you when submitting the form that you claimed yes to reading and understanding:

If you have Optifine or a non-forge server plugin api (Examples: Craftbukkit, Cauldron, Thermos, etc) installed, uninstall them and make sure you can still reproduce the bug before submitting. Optifine and non-forge server plugin api's edit forge base classes, which causes bugs that TFC cannot fix without breaking forge compatibility.

 

The crash is happening because you have Thermos installed. The bug is with Thermos, not with TFC. We cannot help you here.

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So if I cannot use Thermos? and only forge? How do I get plugins?

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Let me see if I can help to clarify the issue.

We have officially from the creators of Minecraft 2 versions.

  • Minecraft single player Vanilla.
  • Minecraft Server Vanilla.

We have 2 main Unofficial Server Base:

  • Bukkit, that allows for a more easy way to create and use Plugins.
  • Forge, that allows for a more easy way to create and use Mods.

Now, remember that Terrafirmacraft is a Forge Mod. This means it was developed using the Forge Tools and API. It is intended to be used from within a Forge environment.

 

A few years ago we had a group of developers that attempted to create a Server base system that would merge Bukkit and Forge. We had a few installments:

  • MCPC
  • Cauldron.
  • KCauldron.
  • Thermos.

Now one important thing to remember is that Minecraft by itself is already full of Bugs.When you use something like Forge or Bukkit and add a whole bunch of Mods or Plugins you chances of error are compounded.

With Thermos the problems are even bigger since it allows for the use of Plugins and Mods in the same environment.

Botton line, Complaining here about a bug that has nothing to do with Terrafirmacraft is the same as complaining to Apple because you can't use an App created for Android.

All that said let me see if I can actually help you.

Most of the times when a server crash at start up it means it has a corrupted chunk.

Looking at the list of mods and plugins I see you have Archimedes Ships, this a very heavy and memory hunger Mod and it causes a lot of Corruption. I strongly recommend not even trying to use any ship mod in a server environment. Any moving block has a potential for error, when you try to move a whole bunch of blocks at the same time, chances are something will go wrong.

How to fix the server?

Create a backup of the server and Recreate the server files adding the mods one by one.

See first if is possible to start the server with only the basic mods, the ones responsible for Terrain Generation, like TFC.

There is no easy way to fix this issue it will be a try and error thing.

I wish you luck. 

 

 

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On 25.02.2017 at 10:39 PM, yuri1234565 said:

So if I cannot use Thermos? and only forge? How do I get plugins?

Try to use mods instead, for example Forge Essentials, MyTown2 etc.

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I run into this before, you using Cauldron  or Thermos  but I gotten TFC to work with K Cauldron but ran into bugs not server crashing bugs, but gameplay bugs, and Forge Essentials  for me have beening corrupting my server world file.

 

If anyone that want to talk to me, plz send a PM or you can get me on discord. https://discord.gg/EAsUpNA

 

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