ExplosionGuy

When I heard Bioxx talk about how vanilla minecraft is just building on hard mode, I got really excited for this mod, because I have thought the same way for so long. The problem right now is that it's basically the same way when you have all the armor, and tools that you will ever need in TFC. What do you do then? Mine for fun? Not much point. Explore? What is there to see that you haven't already seen? What if this problem can be helped with something right under our noses...? NPC's... I strongly believe that NPC's should be added to the mod because there are so many possibilities that come with them. I could write a novel on how much they can add to the mod. Not only can they take away the feeling of loneliness from SSP, they can also add variety and structure to the world of TFC. In life people were never alone, and they certainly had a lot of help to reach the age of metallurgy. This can be a problem in SSP because of the fact that is a vast land with absolutely no one in it, and in real-life, it would be impossible to do some of the things that you usually do alone in TFC. If there were NPC's it would add a small, but complete system of economy. The villagers could mine, smith, farm, trade etc. all by them selves with an average of 10-15 other villagers. They could have these jobs, excluding you out of the picture entirely, making some friendly, wanting help from outsiders, and others hostile, only wanting you to go away or even attack you if you come near. Without full armor and weapons these villagers would be nearly impossible to kill alone, so the best idea would be to RUN. Trust would be an interesting aspect to the A.I. also. With the tribes that are neutral, you could have to gain their trust by building for them, selling to them, or working for them so they will accept you into their community. After some time of gaining their trust, instead of saying: "Tribesman" or "Tribeswoman" above them, they could state their names so you can grow a relationship with each one. Even after they fully trust you with their lives, it can not only be ruined very easily, but still be difficult to trade with them. They have to get the materials themselves in order to be able to buy from them, so they may never have what you want from them. This trust can be ruined just by doing one small thing to irritate them, like steal, destroy parts of their village, etc. Some villages could be advanced in metallurgy and get very large, and others could stay in the stone age, farming/hunting for food and making small huts for their homes. This could add variety within the villages discovery, not only because you have to be careful approaching them, since you don't know whether they will attack you or not, but also because it will give a reason to never stop exploring the vast world of Minecraft. There are more idea's that could be written, but I think this is enough for now. I would LOVE to see NPC's implemented to the mod for these reasons. Thanks, ExplosionGuy

It's not a bug, it's an option that Optifine gives you. Since it's fixed, you should add "[solved]" to the topic name. Bioxx wants this to be done with solved topics.

Not helpful, dude. I'm thinking it might have to do with Optifine. Do you have that mod installed? Edit: I just read a post you made where you said that you did. Optifine is probably the issue. I have a lot of issues with that mod while TFC is installed. Just uninstall it for now. I'm sure it will be fixed eventually.

The things that I suggested when I began the topic: How rare things are in their own world, limits that they have, what entities/blocks spawns/generates and what doesn't, how long it takes for plants and trees to grow, etc.

YAY! Thanks for letting me know. I really hope at least some of the things I suggested are added into the mod. I don't think that would be very good either. I just want a few new options is all.

Haha, maybe we should try to keep this Thread on topic. I would still really like more configurations in an official release. If you guy's could support it, it would mean a lot to me.

I just read your edit, and edited the one I just made. You might have to refresh the page. Lol. I wasn't offended by what you said, but I still appreciate the apology! Thanks.

This is definitely worth replying to! I have to admit that I wasn't necessarily going in the right direction here. I apologize for over-reacting. Hello achartran! *Shakes hand* I appreciate the welcome! Congratz! *Shakes hand* Nice to meet you!

You are completely right, and I fully agree with you. I won't be replying to anymore of the posts on this "flame war," no matter how tempting it is. It is stupid and pointless. Thanks for your input.

Yeah, thanks for the help. You were the only person who kept their cool. I understand if you want to leave. See ya later, man.

I really appreciated you being here wolf. Don't go by what they say. Read the posts yourself. They are being jerks and defending someone who is being an asshole to me because he is a "veteran." All I did was state my opinion, and he attacked what I had to say.

I'm being honest here. I'm sorry if i'm coming off to be an asshole, but you need to read his damn comment before you tell me he is a "respected member" of these forums. He is being a complete ass hole to me just because he doesn't agree with what i'm saying. Why don't you go ahead and read this: achartran: "How could you possibly think prospecting is meaningless? That is a legitimate question, Also, a TFC ore vein will virtually NEVER be just 4-5 ores, if you dig around you will likely find more within a few blocks. TFC generates ores in two ways as far as I can tell: highly concentrated clumps (your 4-5 ores) and strands consisting of quite a bit of ore (yes, they are time consuming to mine, but there is lots of ore there); as well as generating MASSIVE globs of ore, often with inclusions of some less common ores. Now, let's get into something else. Before you keep reading consider this question: When has TerraFirmaCraft EVER been about making everyone happy? I know there are some that think that TFC should in fact try to do just that. But a lot of us, myself included, don't really think that will be good for the mod as we know, and love, it. Now, consider that making everyone happy is just fucking impossible, it's just how things work, someone will always be unhappy. I'm certainly not happy with everything in this mod, and I certainly wish there were some things included in it that won't ever be, but contrary to you, I accept that this mod is in fact Bioxx's vision and creation and that he is making what he wants to make, and that is awesome, it means that we get the best quality mod because it's something that the author actually enjoys and wants to do. The great thing about this being a game you are not obligated to ever play, you don't really have to deal with it if you don't want to. If you really want something that TFC doesn't have, make it yourself. Learn java if you don't already know it, make your own creation that is tailored to exactly what you want (just don't steal anything from TFC, code wise at least). You can't expect others to do everything for you just because it's something YOU want, again, that just isn't how things work. What Menoch said is very true, unless its a private jet you own, and in that case; why do you have a plane if you are afraid of flying? Also, you really need to stop coming here and being all pushy and adversarial about things, it's fine to say what you think, but it has been established that this will NOT be happening, at least on the scale you want. Bioxx has said that, and because it is HIS mod that he creates for us to play and help him in the beta testing process, usually what he says goes. No matter how much you "speak your mind" and continue your current actions, you probably aren't going to change Bioxx's mind. You really aren't the first one to suggest this, you aren't a revolutionary that is going to enlighten us all and cause people all over the world to flood the streets as they celebrate their new found freedom. Continuing to "say what you feel" just because you think when people disagree with you that they are trying to silence you in some way, they just don't agree with you. It also happens that one of the people that disagrees with this idea is the guy that has the final decision on everything about TFC. If you really want to keep going on with this, by all means, go ahead. But just know this, this forum doesn't respond all that kindly when people start getting pushy and won't accept that their idea just isn't going to be part of the mod. So just simmer down, ok? It's not the end of the world if you have to deal with the terrible, just unimaginably awful, task of having to find a bit of metal in a game that is largely based, game mechanic wise, on mining and progressing through different tiers of metal, so you can get more metal faster to get some better metal. So, you have two options here, accept the fact that Bioxx hath spoken, or just keep on doing what you are doing, and set everyone against you. Tbh I haven't seen a positive post from you yet, are sure you actually like this mod?" When did I say that prospecting was meaningless? Why is he attacking my opinions? Did I ask for him to come to my topic an attack what i'm saying? No, No, and NO. I posted this topic because I wanted my opinion heard. I'm not trying to shutdown anyone. That is exactly what he is doing. I'm "being like this" because you guy's are being assholes about everything i'm saying. I'm not in the wrong here. You guys are. Wolf277 is a nice guy, and I appreciate his opinion. You guy's on the other hand, I couldn't care less. If you're going to shut me down on MY topic after some idiotic "veteran" is a complete ass to me, then I don't give a rats ass about anything you say.

Hardly anything you said is even worth commenting on. "Too argue with a fool, makes you a fool." So, I refuse to keep a pointless on-going argument going with a fool. I don't give a flying fuck whether you "like" me or not. Nor do I care what your opinions are, anymore. Clearly you didn't understand halfmaster1's comment and still don't, which only shows even further that you are idiotic. If you don't agree then leave. Well, since these forums suck, they don't automatically add posts made by the same person to their post that was made before hand, like every other decent forum does. To disagree with someone just because they don't agree with some idiotic "veteran" makes you ignorant and immature at best. If you actually read his post and weren't being a little kiss-ass, maybe you would see that he attacked my opinions out of immature anger. Thank you for degrading my topic even more. If I don't want to use the edit button, I don't have to. It's only two extra posts. OH MY GOD! Quit being an immature asshole.

I hear a lot of people claiming that Bioxx said things like, "he will never add more configurations" and stuff like that. Is this true? Can you link me to where he might say things like what he will and won't do and stuff?

I'm seriously curious. Why did you "like" his comment? You should really re-read it and realize that he was kind of being a jerk throughout the entire post. Not only that, but he was a complete ass to halfmaster1 because he wasn't smart enough to actually understand the post.

I'm not here to argue with you dude, i'm here to get my idea heard. I've heard there are reasons that he won't put the configurations that i'm talking about in the mod in beta stage, i'm suggesting to release more configurations when it's officially released. And yes, we all know it's impossible to make everyone happy, but are you seriously disagreeing with the idea of more configuration settings, simply because "the almighty Bioxx" want's it a certain way? Everything he has done with the mod so far is great. He is an awesome coder, and I'm excited to see what's coming next, but as you said: " I'm certainly not happy with everything in this mod, and I certainly wish there were some things included in it that won't ever be." Why is it so hard for you to understand that a more powerful config file after an official release, might actually make a lot of people happier with the mod? You just got done saying that people have suggested it before. He is obviously trying to make people happier with his mod, or he wouldn't have made the forums. I'd like a link to where Bioxx said that he will never do what I suggested. Why are you replying to a quote saying "I haven't seen a positive post from you yet," after I JUST said "I love the way this mod has changes Minecraft in some ways... I do love mining and how it works with having to prospect for ores."? Why don't you go to my profile and look at my previous posts smart one? I can't believe how negative "Magnificent! I am SO glad that I found this. This texture pack looks great! I love how it fits with the style of the mod so well. I can't wait to see it finished! " is. Why would I say such a thing!? This isn't a war. You don't need to attack what I say either. You seem all butthurt about what I've said, when all i've said are my opinions about the mod. I never said anything about anything being "unimaginably awful." So why are you saying it? I really like Menoch's post. He stated his opinion without being a douche, unlike you. Why don't you try calming down and taking a breather before bust a blood vessel. Why are you even replying to halfmaster1? You completely misunderstood the context of his comment and his point entirely. Please, just go away. Please. EDIT: I take what I said: "I love the way this mod has changes Minecraft in some ways, but I don't want to have to spend years to master something as useless and meaningless as prospecting in Minecraft. I do love mining and how it works with having to prospect for ores, but I do NOT like the fact that I have to spend days IRL to find a measly ore vein with 4-5 bismuth ores." I've realized, with experience, that it's not like this.

Why are my seeds showing up as white boxes? Image here: http://i.imgur.com/gFW1i.jpg They are on the right in the middle. I thought it was Optifine, but when I removed it, they were still white boxes. It can't the texture pack because all of them do the same thing. I checked the texture in the mod files and they were fine. Why are they showing up like this?! When I do have Optifine, all planks show up like THIS! Please help... =(

Yep, got it. It works fine now. The planks and stone bricks are still messed up while i'm using Optifine, though. =/ Yeah, hopefully it's fixed eventually.

I'm not comparing it to anything. I used Inficraft as an example to what my point was. Yeah... It's all good, though. It's all part of the game. I realize that it probably won't be released during beta stage, but I would like it to have more config options when it's officially released. Again, I don't want the configuration just to make it easier. What if I find something to easy and want to make it harder? What if I want something slightly different for my very own server? These are the options I want also. Great! I'm going to try this out as soon as I can! Thanks for all the help. =)

I wasn't prospecting on the surface, I was prospecting in a cave, but I heard just now that ores are more rarely found in caves. That must have been my problem. I didn't know about coal veins, though. That's awesome. Yes, I know there are config files, but they can't do really anything that I would like them to do. i don't think prospecting should be easier, that's not really what I was talking about at all. I was talking about having the ability to change the rarity of generated things in the mod. Maybe I just want to change how often animals generate, or how often I find seeds. I have the freedom to say what I feel, and this is how I feel. You're not going to change what I think about this by quoting Bioxx EXACTLY. I just read that post a few days ago. You sir, are awesome. +1! Not really. It just changes a few things like ID's "year" lengths, and a few other things. If the things I'm suggesting were added, it would only change block/entity generation within the mod. i know what you mean, but I don't really agree. I have had mods that you can completely change what is generated and the rarity of the generation. Inficraft was the one I was using. A lot of the ores were useless so I removed them. I shouldn't have to remove a great mod because the modder "doesn't feel like" making a more powerful config file. THANK YOU. This is VERY helpful. I'm also wondering if there is a guide on how to get nuggets from rocks that can be found. There are games that I will spend hours looking, just to find 4 Cassiterite and over 300-400 rocks... I'm really not sure what you mean by the 3ird one. Can you explain it more detailed for me? I've read this before, and i'll be sure to try it out. I got distracted from the first time I tried, so it didn't help much. I have found an ore vein before, and it was huge. I found it through the method you were talking about, but I was in creative mode and in a cave. Lol. I still think the config files should give you the ability to edit generations in the game. it's not really just about ores, if at all.

Not true. To the question "Will there be NPC's to fill roles in cities?" He said and I quote "Probably not unless a very compelling reason is brought forth. I would rather see players take advantage of the systems than have a computer controlled NPC doing everything." I think this is a great idea. I think specific ages should come with interacting with other NPC's in singleplayer, and possibly other people in multiplayer. It gives more life to exploring new lands in the mod. What is the point of exploring if I know that all i'm going to find is dirt, animals, and possibly ores? What if that gets boring? I honestly don't believe interacting with villagers has ever gotten boring, and I have seen almost everything there is to see about them. With more being implemented, and the A.I. being more complex can add so much variety to the mod. I strongly disagree with the idea that NPC's should never be implemented into this mod. I will most likely NEVER play on servers with this mod installed. I don't want to play with random strangers usually, because a lot of people I meet are complete ass holes, and I am NOT fond of the servers communities, therefore, I will probably always be playing Minecraft with this mod on singleplayer alone. I find it unfair that I don't have the option of interacting with villagers and buying/selling from/to them. I like the idea of building cities for other villagers, working for them, or just being a tourist. The currency they use can be very difficult to get and the trust of the villagers can be rough, so the idea should not be taken out of the question just because it can make a few things too easy isn't very smart. The whole point of advancing through ages, is to make certain things easier, while enabling you to do new things and find new ways to survive. NPC's can really help you advance, but if you want, you can be the village miner. You could even be the village blacksmith and you can sell the items you create for the village currency so you can buy new ores from the village miner if you just want to forge weapons. The next ages could be the age of exploring and finding new lands to conquer. You could even be a ship builder so you can sail vast seas with your very own crew. That's just an idea, though. My point is that I love the thought of cities and villagers. They shouldn't just be blown of the chalk board just because one little idea MIGHT contradict it.

I completely disagree, VERY few people in the Minecraft community create mods, and an incredibly small fraction if any at all would be stupid enough to do that. So by the random, upright ridiculously rare chance that someone does, the people who see it will either recocnize it as a rip-off, or probably won't be interested in the first place. The only time I can remember anyone doing the was Chickenbones (the creator of NEI) and he didn't steal ANY of the coding. AT ALL. He took the idea and made it better, and there is nothing wrong with that. In-fact, to prevent that, is absolutely selfish and arrogant (e.g. This is what Apple is doing with their products) and I don't believe this would be why Bioxx would refuse this request. Thank you! You just earned a like, good sir! Good to know, thanks for the info. Unless of course someone saw you take the cookie from the kid. If it were to happen, the person who took the idea would have to change it, and make it there own so much, that they would be working just as hard as Bioxx. If they didn't, he/she would get shoved off the forums and hated for stealing someone else's mod. What do you mean "high roller (777) topic?" What is that? I have patients, but I have to admit that I don't have the patients to search for ores for hours inside of a huge cave in creative mode for hours and find nothing. Hopefully I can learn how to prospect better and experience exactly what you're taking about, because I found it outrageously difficult to find ores, even when I was flying around prospecting 300 blocks a minute.

I support this. I love Little Blocks mod, and I would love a feature like this. It's really one of the only reasons I use RedPower 2.

I do what I can.

Thanks man! You have my full support and I'll be sure to try and contact Sphax about porting this to BDCraft.