winches, pules and cams, water wheels and pumps (move your ores)

[abandoned mines 119]

Seeing as gear systems haven't even been confirmed, you'll be pretty disappointed.

not really, i ve got buildcraft working along with trains mod

theres going to be a steam shovel in the trains mod soon so i ll be building open pit mines from now on >

[bsb23 303]

I don't want redstone removed either but unfortunately I think it will happen eventually. If it wasn't removed i would probably throw a party.

[Just_Another_Guy_:) 1,066]

If redstones goes away, what will happen with creepers? I mean, both are strong symbols of Vanilla MC...

[Deathbytac0 46]

Creepers won't want hugs anymore. They explode in love, take redstone away they will implode in hatred.

[abandoned mines 119]

lets agree that if redstone is removed and it starts causing problems than we go and bug Bioxx to have it restored

[dunkleosteus 2,425]

lets agree that if redstone is removed and it starts causing problems than we go and bug Bioxx to have it restored

What are you doing, starting a coup? please don't.

[EternalUndeath 1,208]

lets agree that if redstone is removed and it starts causing problems than we go and bug Bioxx to have it restored

*then

[Scooterdanny 285]

Yeah no, redstone is BS anyways, the fact that it holds very little use, and the total breaking of suspension of disbelief in Minecraft. "oh look, i have this material that phospereses, makes electricity when levers are pulled, and produces infinite energy.... if you want redstone so badly, get redpower or something that is a replacer. i really don't see the point of redstone.

[Deathbytac0 46]

I see more people asking to have it gone, no resistance. I'd try it.

Yeah no, redstone is BS anyways, the fact that it holds very little use, and the total breaking of suspension of disbelief in Minecraft. "oh look, i have this material that phospereses, makes electricity when levers are pulled, and produces infinite energy.... if you want redstone so badly, get redpower or something that is a replacer. i really don't see the point of redstone.

You can use it to make 8-bit computers! (useless) and have this these logic gates I made! http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQVOia8oV48&feature=plcp (also completely useless, and my video is shitty)

[abandoned mines 119]

.....

o well

anyway any further ideas to try and flesh out how the different mechanisms could work?

[Deathbytac0 46]

Camshafts.

[Scooterdanny 285]

For what exactly? the most common uses are in internal combustion engines, they did have appearances as water raising machines in Grecian times, but besides that. only clocks come to mind, and that's a stretch.

[bsb23 303]

Anything that could be considered a signal could replace redstone. However the redstone system is pretty nice as it is simple but has just about infinite uses. I think of a system besides electricty that could exactly replace it and thats not happening. Other possible replacements; gears, steam, water, string-like system, and literally anything else capable of repeating movement.

[Scooterdanny 285]

I think steam has a good chance of replacing it, using pipes that convey steam, coming from a bolier and can give signal as long as it has heat, and of course, need to be refilled with water every now and again.

[dunkleosteus 2,425]

I think steam has a good chance of replacing it, using pipes that convey steam, coming from a bolier and can give signal as long as it has heat, and of course, need to be refilled with water every now and again.

it *might* be replaced with electricity, we don't know. Pistons and steam pipes might be utilised with a cooling system to replicate how steam power is generated, but you'd probably need a few inseries to have a constant current.

[abandoned mines 119]

it *might* be replaced with electricity, we don't know. Pistons and steam pipes might be utilised with a cooling system to replicate how steam power is generated, but you'd probably need a few inseries to have a constant current.

we could create a really early electrical system with a dynamo that was powered by a steam engine

the power from the dynamo would than need to be stored or sent to a device for use

[bsb23 303]

An extra very complicated system would be nice though. People were making computer-like devices far before electricity. Gears and strings are the two main examples although the other two were also used.

[dunkleosteus 2,425]

An extra very complicated system would be nice though. People were making computer-like devices far before electricity. Gears and strings are the two main examples although the other two were also used.

Unless you want to design a mechanical calculator by yourself, you'll stick with the steam power.

[Scooterdanny 285]

well, one could have a pressure vessel that requires charging, but could put out a steady current for a certain amount of time. but i love the idea of steam, (Steampunk genre is best genre) i might die if i get to build a factory with steam puffing, pistons pumping, and whistles blowing.