Idea for new the awesome new chisel setting you added!

[Hyena Grin 92]

Honestly I would just like to be able to adjust the increments on chiselling. Instead of only having the option to chisel one 'unit' at a time, it'd be nice if you could cycle through one, two, three, four, and five unit increments.

That way you could rapidly create blocks of certain sizes without having to tap it a bunch of times, but you would still need to shape each stone individually. Just with less or more fine control.

[halfmaster1 77]

Honestly I would just like to be able to adjust the increments on chiselling. Instead of only having the option to chisel one 'unit' at a time, it'd be nice if you could cycle through one, two, three, four, and five unit increments.

That way you could rapidly create blocks of certain sizes without having to tap it a bunch of times, but you would still need to shape each stone individually. Just with less or more fine control.

Slabs. Use these first, then go into detailed mode.

[Hyena Grin 92]

Slabs. Use these first, then go into detailed mode.

I admit I didn't think you could even make slabs anymore, let alone detail them. But anyway that doesn't help if you just want to do two, three, or four units depth. Yes it might seem trivial on the surface but if you are trying to do complex detailing over a large project, being able to chisel out two or three units at a time would be a huge time saver and save a lot of lost stone for mistakes.

[dunkleosteus 2,425]

I guess i should mention that after some discussion, I retract my original denial of copying chiseled blocks

[Mephistos_chan 26]

I guess i should mention that after some discussion, I retract my original denial of copying chiseled blocks

Cool, I think that could lead to an economy with sculptors.

[dunkleosteus 2,425]

Cool, I think that could lead to an economy with sculptors.

actually it won't, because people can copy any block that's already been created, effectively DESTROYING any possibility of professional sculptors. As soon as a cool block has been created once, any person can copy it. It's like music piracy.

[Mephistos_chan 26]

Not if you give it a mechanic similar to forging. Then it might lead to specialisation.

[Kimbblesrath 503]

Not if you give it a mechanic similar to forging. Then it might lead to specialisation.

How would that even work?

[Mephistos_chan 26]

As with the anvil basically, on a new block, the Mason's table. There are different ways of adding complexity and it should have a higher chance of failure than metal working, because stone is more common. A rough process could be

1. Produce carved block

2. a. Place in scribing table, with markings and paper, to produce the plan.

b. Calculate complexity, this is always going to be highly subjective but an algorithm could be

b.1. Load Object plan into a 3 dimensional array (which may be how carved blocks are stored anyway).

2. Project object along each main axis (in other words make a 2D view) and calculate the ratio of full squares to empty squares, if greater than 1 take the reciprocal. This will give a number between 0 and 1, where 0 is simple and 1 is complex.

3. Add the 3 views together, a number between 0 and 3 (Value x).

4. Calculate the ratio of empty space in the whole block and if greater than 1 take the reciprocal. (Value y).

5. Multiply x by y to get an overall complexity, form these values into bands to produce an initial handicap from easy to very difficult (narrowing the target window). This will help form the equivalent of the reduction in durability on forged items BUT will actually be the chance of total loss when the completed block is removed from the table.

6. Using y by itself is an indicator of how much work is to be put in and therefore how many hits you get to reach the window. (This stops people just doing the lightest hits all the way)

3. Place virgin block in Mason's Table along with the plan, hammer and chisel, use a GUI similar to forging but only moving one way (you can't add stone).

4. Using a combination of differently weighted hits remove material until within the target window. Take too many hits and lose the block or worse get a pile of gravel you now have to dispose of.

5. When in the target area, the distance to the actual ideal point is proportional to the chance of total loss when trying to remove the block (a random chance to account for unseen defects in the stone)

Different hardnesses of stone could alter the above mechanics, as could the tier of metal.

A poor mason would use more durability on a chisel/ hammer and lose more blocks of stone, making it more likely to encourage specialisation without adding 'skill' levels.

Plans should be have durability to reduce uses and should only be copyable by placing a block in the scribing table as above. This gives plans an intrinsic value, meaning that if someone made a column section it may be worth churning out many plans from the initial block, however, if someone creates the Venus de Milo it would be in their interest to deliberately use up some of the durability before selling the plan on, to increase the rarity.

Hope this is clear enough.

[Sebster 8]

Today is a good day to be the the OP.

Congrats to Exanadu.

Change Log

Beta Build 74 New Features

Added Blueprint – Crafted with one paper and one ink marking – Using a blank blueprint on a Added Blueprint – Crafted with one paper and one ink marking – Using a blank blueprint on a detailed block will copy the block to the blueprint stack ( detailed block will copy the block to the blueprint stack ( This will copy the block layout to every This will copy the block layout to every single blueprint item in the stack single blueprint item in the stack ). A gui will then open which will allow you to name the blueprint ). A gui will then open which will allow you to name the blueprint for organization purposes. Using the blueprint on a detailed block will consume the blueprint and the for organization purposes. Using the blueprint on a detailed block will consume the blueprint and the block will be chiseled. The player must have a chisel and a hammer on the quickbar for this to block will be chiseled. The player must have a chisel and a hammer on the quickbar for this to function.

[Emris 156]

...do i hear an echo ?!?...

[Kimbblesrath 503]

Congrats to Exanadu.

I am happy that the feature was implemented, but why are you congratulating Exanadu? I mean, sure he made a thread about it, but it has been discussed multiple times before. And anyway, an idea is a concept, not individual to one person.

[Sebster 8]

Yea, point taken. I wasn't aware this had been discussed before. Having read briefly through this thread I knew that OP would be happy to see this come to light.

Bioxx/Dunk did all the work and most of all, we all benefit.

It's exciting to see a great mod like this continually grow.

[Biodigious 211]

...there's no such thing as a free lunch.

I hope everyone has room in their hunger bars.

[EternalUndeath 1,208]

Don't worry, eternal is dead *crosses finger he'll come in with a grumpy "NO I'M NOT!"*

I swear, I pop back quickly just to see if there's anything good around, and this is what I get...

[turtletechy 37]

I swear, I pop back quickly just to see if there's anything good around, and this is what I get...

LOL!

[Treyflix 277]

I swear, I pop back quickly just to see if there's anything good around, and this is what I get...

Eternal!!!

[EternalUndeath 1,208]

Eternal!!!

Ephemeral!

I can shout adjectives starting in E too

[Srgnoodles 1,030]

Ephemeral!

I can shout adjectives starting in E too

EUCLIDIAN!!!

[halfmaster1 77]

EUROPE!

No, that isn't an adjective.

ENDEMIC!

[Mephistos_chan 26]

Execrable! (my favourite word)

[Kimbblesrath 503]

EUROPE!

No, that isn't an adjective.

ENDEMIC!

European!

[Srgnoodles 1,030]

European!

-My Personal Favorite-

ELDRICH

[EternalUndeath 1,208]

1st post in months, and I start a derail

Hail to the king, baby