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XioXio729

Stone Pickaxe

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Why do i see a recipe for a stone pickaxe with a stone pickaxe head because in the wiki it says you cant make pickaxes with stone.

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The stone pickaxes weren't completely removed from the mod. There is no way to get a stone pickaxe head legitimately.

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It is like with vanilla blocks. They were not removed from the game, it was just impossible to get them without using NEI or the likes.

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You'll need to make a pickaxe from metal. You'll need to go rock hunting, and find any small pieces of ore on the surface until you have enough to melt down into an ingot (16 small nuggets) and then hammer it into an pickaxe head on a piece of raw igneous rock. The wiki and forums has a lot more detailed information about how to do that.

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That's not what he asked ._. he asked why is there a stone pickaxe/stone pickaxe head in NEI's menu when they were supposedly removed.

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Nope...But if you think about it, it makes no sense..Breaking stone with stone. That is like trying to chop down a tree with a stick..

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Nope...But if you think about it, it makes no sense..Breaking stone with stone. That is like trying to chop down a tree with a stick..

But if you are Kung fu enough...

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Nope...But if you think about it, it makes no sense..Breaking stone with stone. That is like trying to chop down a tree with a stick..

You can break rock with rock.

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Also, you can take adventage of the geometry of the rock to break it.

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Sure. I know about the Mohs scale. But all the ROCK (not minerals, rock) in TFC are essentially the same hardness, and thus would break each other as easily as a pickaxe is meant to.

Of course, taking advantage of the geometry would help, but attempting to code that would not be practical. And the rock in Minecraft is represented as a solid piece of rock, so there is no real geometry to work with, unless you are mining on a corner, but coding that would most likely be horrible. If you did break a stone with the same hardness stone, the only way you would be able to viably do that is by taking advantage of cracks in the stone, which is not really a Minecraft-viable thing to do.

And hardness isn't even the main factor. Brittleness is. Stone is extremely brittle, and that is why it is possible to knap stones as the molecular structure of stones is not very resistant to impact, and breaks off easily. Metal (unless cooled and microcrystals form in it) is not very brittle. This is the main reason why a Copper pick (hardness 3.5) can break a block of Basalt which is ~5 hardness (because of the plagioclase, it is an average of ~5). If you did that with basalt however, the stone would shatter after a few ten hits or so. The metal, as it is less brittle, and is more flexible will, instead of shattering on impact, flex, and absorb some of the impact, and transfer the force behind the swing into the stone, and shatter the stone and not the pick. Stronger, more flexible, less brittle alloys (and denser metals/alloys) can do this more efficiently and deliver more force to the stone, thus breaking it fatser.

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kim, you forget the piercing effect, banging 2 equally formed blocks against each other would fail, but a pickaxe would have a sharpened point, which would work a tad bit better than the normal block (not sufficient enough to break stone though :D

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kim, you forget the piercing effect, banging 2 equally formed blocks against each other would fail, but a pickaxe would have a sharpened point, which would work a tad bit better than the normal block (not sufficient enough to break stone though :D

Good point, but the gist of it still lies. The point would help for the first maybe 4 to 10 hits, then it would break off. Then it goes back to a blunt stone breaking a stone block, which fails.

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