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SunsetSpecter

My Kingdom for a roof

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Hello, me again with another suggestion based purely on aesthetics.

Right, firstly I'm a builder, if my home does not look 'proper' my eye twitches. There is something lacking in tfc that exists in vanilla minecraft, a block dedicated for roofs. Okay whilst not 100% accurate, I can find no other 'better' use for Nether Brick Stairs, than as a 'roof tile' for my homes. It looks good, and isn't the same color as my stairwells, or made of planks.

Basically what I'm suggesting is some block, made from materials somewhat abundant like trees, to which you can craft into a Thatched roof, Tiled roof, Shingled roof, which follows the 1.4.7-1.5 minecraft stair placement rules.

There are a few ideas I've seen, however the easiest would be 'tree bark shingles' as used early on by colonial settlers on log cabins [due to lack of clay and processing].

Crafting could be as simple as, step one, chop down tree, step two, put logs in crafting table in a "staircase pattern" or other different pattern with axe and rather than you getting planks from said logs, you get bark shingles.

Place like stairs, maybe prevent one block water drip physics as well.

Again, there is no point to doing this other than to add some more eye-candy to the world, and have proper a proper roofing material/block in TFC so people with minecraft OCD like myself stop eye-twitching over having to use log piles as a roof.

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Hello, me again with another suggestion based purely on aesthetics.

Right, firstly I'm a builder, if my home does not look 'proper' my eye twitches. There is something lacking in tfc that exists in vanilla minecraft, a block dedicated for roofs. Okay whilst not 100% accurate, I can find no other 'better' use for Nether Brick Stairs, than as a 'roof tile' for my homes. It looks good, and isn't the same color as my stairwells, or made of planks.

Basically what I'm suggesting is some block, made from materials somewhat abundant like trees, to which you can craft into a Thatched roof, Tiled roof, Shingled roof, which follows the 1.4.7-1.5 minecraft stair placement rules.

There are a few ideas I've seen, however the easiest would be 'tree bark shingles' as used early on by colonial settlers on log cabins [due to lack of clay and processing].

Crafting could be as simple as, step one, chop down tree, step two, put logs in crafting table in a "staircase pattern" or other different pattern with axe and rather than you getting planks from said logs, you get bark shingles.

Place like stairs, maybe prevent one block water drip physics as well.

Again, there is no point to doing this other than to add some more eye-candy to the world, and have proper a proper roofing material/block in TFC so people with minecraft OCD like myself stop eye-twitching over having to use log piles as a roof.

Perhaps bark would need to be removed from wood for you to make planks? Removing bark from the wood should at least give you some cool looking wood blocks for decoration along with the bark. However, you would be unable to make log piles/charcoal with these wood blocks. The burn time for wood would be slightly reduced without the bark, while this may or may not be the case in real life, there should be some costs/benifits associated with breaking down wood into its component elements.

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Perhaps bark would need to be removed from wood for you to make planks? Removing bark from the wood should at least give you some cool looking wood blocks for decoration along with the bark. However, you would be unable to make log piles/charcoal with these wood blocks. The burn time for wood would be slightly reduced without the bark, while this may or may not be the case in real life, there should be some costs/benifits associated with breaking down wood into its component elements.

And the Bark could be used in the production of Tannin (instead of whole logs) or for various other things.

The last thread of mine, which got completely misunderstood, basically had all this together with a few new lowest Tier building blocks.

In my thread the attributes for debarked-logs were:

-They are easier to break (making them less of a hassle to build.

-Bark is used in the making of torches (even though that needed some Firepit changes. Basically it was Tar)

-Debarked Wood is needed to make planks

-Debarked wood yields minimal amounts fewer Charcoal.

-Bark Mulch apart from being part of a few recipes (Tannin making and Tar and perhaps some kind of compost/fertilizer) could also be placed on the ground for completely cosmetic reasons

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Thatch, in cubic half-slab and stair form IMHO would broaden the game more than adding yet another variant of wood.

It could plausibly be given a role as animal food too. This extra possible function is another point in thatch's favor.

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Half slabs are ok for making roofs but stairs are have issues with inside and outside corners. Chiseled stone allows for greater detail in roof design. I would love to see proper wedge shapes in different rise over run lengths and supporting both inside and outside corners.

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...I would love to see proper wedge shapes in different rise over run lengths and supporting both inside and outside corners...

Er... what?

I may be wrong but I see a few problems with this idea.

The problem with that is you wouldn't just be creating a type of block for the specific purpose of creating a roof, you would need an entirely new, potentialy slower system for rendering chiseled blocks... The way I understand it is in TFC when you chisel a block the block is actualy composed of much smaller blocks that you are removing bit by bit... For a ramp like shape to be rendered with this system would be nearly impossible short of making far smaller microblocks. A sloped block that looked sloped as I understand it would be far too much work for an item that would have far too little effect on gameplay.

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A sloped block that looked sloped as I understand it would be far too much work for an item that would have far too little effect on gameplay.

No, not really. There is an easy way to render non-cubes in minecraft. Sluices are rendered like that. New ingots in ingot piles are rendered like that.

There's a whole mod dedicated to adding sloped blocks of all kinds in minecraft.

Take a look

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No, not really. There is an easy way to render non-cubes in minecraft. Sluices are rendered like that. New ingot in ingot piles are rendered like that.

There's a whole mod dedicated to adding sloped blocks of all kinds in minecraft.

Take a look

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I have seen that mod before but that still makes me want to drink a bucket of milk.

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No, not really. There is an easy way to render non-cubes in minecraft. Sluices are rendered like that. New ingots in ingot piles are rendered like that.

There's a whole mod dedicated to adding sloped blocks of all kinds in minecraft.

Take a look

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Wow! I have never seen that mod before and I have always wondered what sloped blocks would look like in Minecraft.

I'm in two minds about it though. I like it, but at the same time I don't. I like it, because it really does look good. I looked on that thread's OP and saw the image of a stone building with an orange tiled roof, which looks just like the roof on the house outside my window lol. Really nice to see.

However, I don't like it, because it makes Minecraft look less 'blocky' and this blocky look is what makes Minecraft. I love the imaginative aspect of the blocks currently in Minecraft (and TFC). Like the stair blocks used to make a roof, fence posts with pressure plates as a table and even the same stair blocks as sofas and chairs. Something like this I would like to see more of.

If there was to be a sloped block, maybe model the block with tiny steps. But then you might as well use planks or chisled stone.

If there were to be a block solely dedicated to be a roof, it must have some sort of benefit to it, other than to keep the rain out. Maybe to insulate heating within the building or something? I just think that to make a roof block there must be a better reason for them rather than just for aesthetic, because if that was the case then I would rather stick to stairs or chisled stone as the roof.

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