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Revamp: "Treecapitator" effect on trees

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As a new player to TFC, there are a lot of overwhelming things to deal with, such as getting out of the stone age for beginners. However, as a 2+ year Minecraft vet versed in vanilla, Bukkit, Tekkit, Skyblock, etc. I feel that trees need to be revamped.

To be more realistic, it makes sense that breaking leaves has a chance to drop sticks and saplings. I get it.

However, if I fell a tree, the logs break but the leaves do not. Punching the group of leaves afterwards results in only the chance that the one punched will drop sticks/saplings.

Proposed change:

  • When felling a tree, the entire tree (logs and leaves) comes down. (This is similar to the Treecapitator mod on Tekkit/FTB servers.)
  • Each leaf block has the chance to drop sticks and saplings as if they were punched.
  • Axes should not take durability for leaf blocks, but only the logs felled count towards durability. This is on the account that leaves can be punched and logs cannot.
  • If the durability on an axe is low enough that it only takes part of the tree down, all leaves still come with it.
To me, this is much more realistic with actual tree felling and eases the burden of stick acquisition (especially as many sticks are lost when a "floating bush" is punched).

Comments and suggestions welcome. Thanks for looking!

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I think it would be annoying if I got a million sticks every time I cut trees for charcoal. Once you can make a scythe, it's really easy to get a lot of sticks when you need them.

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I think it would be annoying if I got a million sticks every time I cut trees for charcoal. Once you can make a scythe, it's really easy to get a lot of sticks when you need them.

I think you are exaggerating just a bit. :)

Also, what is the reach of a scythe? Not far I am guessing. How do you get leaves on tree tops?

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Would it also not be realistic for the tree to crush you? :D

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Honestly, if we are redoing trees I wanna see roots, stumps, boughs, branches, twigs, better (not necessarily 1m cubes) trunk and leaf models (including tree dimensions, aging, and growth stages) and felled trees becoming a felled tree entity which you can push or drag around with effort, and you must break off the bits of the tree that you want. However, I really cannot see any of that happening.

TFC doesn't need auto-gathering twigs, especially as much as it needs combat and ceramic age updates :P . The feature of having to collect sticks manually is very much intentional, adding more of the 'Stone age tedium -> Metal age simplicity' dynamic to the game. Sorry if I came off as a jerk, rereading that it kinda sounded that way :unsure: .

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No, that makes sense. You are fine. :)

It's just I find it highly frustrating that felling trees leads to floating leaf blocks. I am highly OCD when it comes to keeping the natural beauty of the game, and being Minecraft, it comes naturally. I guess I could build scaffolding to clear these "floating bushes" (especially tall pines) but you can see my frustration.

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Oh, the floating blocks are a bug, that happens with all large trees to some extent in TFC. I do not have any experience with other tree-felling mods but this has been a problem for as long as I remember, and with all of the "fixes" that were released in it's direction it seems to be a difficult problem to tackle. I'm pretty sure you can still craft a flint and steel though... :D

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... Once you can make a scythe, it's really easy to get a lot of sticks when you need them.

Scythe is a tool for cutting grass, not tree leaves and tree branches.

Imho, i would use an axe, and when you break the leaves block that is next to the tree block, all the leaves from that side of the tree, and only on that height, drop sticks and/or saplings. Just like in real life, you cut a branch, all the leaves on that branch come down with it :)

I would also add damage when you break leaves with bare hands. Would make you want to use tools more :)

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I would also add damage when you break leaves with bare hands. Would make you want to use tools more :)

Just no. Unless you managed to bruise yourself with a leaf at some point.
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Just no. Unless you managed to bruise yourself with a leaf at some point.

There are thick branches in there also.
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There are thick branches in there also.

How often did you get injured while breaking a branch?
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How often did you get injured while breaking a branch?

Many times...but maybe thats just me :)
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I would think that punching leaves is the Minecraft equivalent to grabbing branches and tearing them off the tree.

Regardless, Treecapitator please. If not by default, having the option to enable it would be awesome. (I know players on my server would appreciate it!)

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