Thirst in the deep mines

[Alan 0]

On the level 1-30 need more water because of the much more thirsty.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TauTona_Mine

[Kittychanley 1,002]

The link you provided says nothing about water in that mine. Also, you can stock your inventory with ceramic jugs or glass bottles full of water and bring those down with you to quench your thirst.

 

There are also a few underground caves and ravines in TFC at low levels that do spawn with rivers in them.

[Alan 0]

Sorry for my english. I said that player need use ceramic jugs or glass bottles more often that usually.

And if on the surface player use 2 ceramic jugs in the deep mines he sould use 3 ceramic jugs.

It will be seems more naturally.

[Kittychanley 1,002]

Oh! You're suggesting that because it is hotter down at the bottom of mines, the player's thirst should drain faster, and they must drink more water? I guess that makes sense. Body temperature is being added in B78, and that affects both hunger and thirst. I'm pretty sure that players will be colder at higher elevations, maybe we can set it up so that they get warmer at lower levels.

[SionoiS 15]

Oh! You're suggesting that because it is hotter down at the bottom of mines, the player's thirst should drain faster, and they must drink more water? I guess that makes sense. Body temperature is being added in B78, and that affects both hunger and thirst. I'm pretty sure that players will be colder at higher elevations, maybe we can set it up so that they get warmer at lower levels.

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Already done !

 

Check out my PR i rewrote the temperature system entirely.

 

[PaoloEmilio 53]

It makes logic, and with leather water sac addon I'll bring 3 sacs with 12 uses, even more effective than those jugs. But really, I can't wait to bath in the hot springs!!

[Kittychanley 1,002]

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Already done !

 

Check out my PR i rewrote the temperature system entirely.

 

 

Although I have the ability to merge PR's, I have been asked by Dunk and Bioxx to leave all merges to them. Please also keep in mind that they prefer that you leave all features and major overhauls to them, and only to submit PRs for small things such as localization changes and bugfixes, untill you have proven yourself, and have gotten permission from the Devs to make the change before coding it. Since you re-wrote an entire class, it is going to take time for Bioxx to look over everything and make sure that nothing else was broken, as the majority of the world generation code depends on that class. It is very possible that he may take the lazy way out and just ignore the PR instead of doing all the work to make sure it is correct.

[Alan 0]

"Oh! You're suggesting that because it is hotter down at the bottom of mines, the player's thirst should drain faster, and they must drink more water? I guess that makes sense. Body temperature is being added in B78, and that affects both hunger and thirst. I'm pretty sure that players will be colder at higher elevations, maybe we can set it up so that they get warmer at lower levels."

 

It will be great

Thanks

[AllenWL 186]

"Oh! You're suggesting that because it is hotter down at the bottom of mines, the player's thirst should drain faster, and they must drink more water? I guess that makes sense. Body temperature is being added in B78, and that affects both hunger and thirst. I'm pretty sure that players will be colder at higher elevations, maybe we can set it up so that they get warmer at lower levels."

 

I think it should grow colder underground for the first few hundred or so meters, and then grow hotter.

While the underground is hot near lava and deep under near the mantle, until you get deep enough to get effected by them, underground remains cooler than the surface

[landryx 36]

yeah, mining would then require warm clothes to maintain body temperature high enough to not freeze. (slowness/slow mining).

[SionoiS 15]

Although I have the ability to merge PR's, I have been asked by Dunk and Bioxx to leave all merges to them. Please also keep in mind that they prefer that you leave all features and major overhauls to them, and only to submit PRs for small things such as localization changes and bugfixes, untill you have proven yourself, and have gotten permission from the Devs to make the change before coding it. Since you re-wrote an entire class, it is going to take time for Bioxx to look over everything and make sure that nothing else was broken, as the majority of the world generation code depends on that class. It is very possible that he may take the lazy way out and just ignore the PR instead of doing all the work to make sure it is correct.

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I code those stuffs for fun and personal server use.

 

If it can benefit vanilla TFC i PR that's all.

 

I think it should grow colder underground for the first few hundred or so meters, and then grow hotter.

While the underground is hot near lava and deep under near the mantle, until you get deep enough to get effected by them, underground remains cooler than the surface

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earth temperature under the part that freeze during winter(about 2m) stay at ~8 ^oC than near magma well you know....

[AllenWL 186]

earth temperature under the part that freeze during winter(about 2m) stay at ~8 ^oC than near magma well you know....

 

Umm, What? I cant understand what you are trying to say.

[landryx 36]

He's saying that the first 2 meters of the Earth's crustal would follow seasonal outdoor temperature.

It's not a bad idea!! However, must harden the dirt in winter by putting it more difficult to shovel

[SionoiS 15]

Umm, What? I cant understand what you are trying to say.

 

 

That the first 2 meters of the Earth's crustal would follow seasonal outdoor temperature; frozen in winter, unfrozen in summer.

 

Maybe a little too complicated, but it would be cool to harden the dirt but putting it more difficult to shovel.

 

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That's what i was trying to say.

 

Frozen dirt It would take time to code(if doable) for no real benefit.....

[landryx 36]

I always found the winter not enough scary. 

[Gatsu 3]

I always found winter not enough scary. 

 

 

Winter is really hard if you get there without any resources you'll have trouble trying to survive because there is almost no food, no grass for the kiln and wood seems to be longer to grow also agriculture is not a possibility. Try playing a nordic game then tell me how easy it was.

[landryx 36]

Winter is really hard if you get there without any resources you'll have trouble trying to survive because there is almost no food, no grass for the kiln and wood seems to be longer to grow also agriculture is not a possibility. Try playing a nordic game then tell me how easy it was.

 

 

 

Is TFC designed for high nordic surviving yet?? Since you cannot advance in the game without any renewable woods supply like you said, what's the point?

 

Or thinking of a suitable well balanced survival system for those nordic regions. Anyway, it could be a nice challenging alternative for advanced TFC players.

[AllenWL 186]

 

He's saying that the first 2 meters of the Earth's crustal would follow seasonal outdoor temperature.

It's not a bad idea!! However, must harden the dirt in winter by putting it more difficult to shovel

 

 

Ah I see.

I know it's colder below 2 meters. I've been there, wished I'd packed a jacket(and it was summer, in a desert....)

But yea, the frozen dirt thing will be nice. I mean, have you tried to dig in the winter? it's an effort to get the shovel deep enough to dig more than a few inches of dirt. takes the better part of an hour to get even close to a cubic meter

[Brass 2]

I think it should grow colder underground for the first few hundred or so meters, and then grow hotter.

While the underground is hot near lava and deep under near the mantle, until you get deep enough to get effected by them, underground remains cooler than the surface

mmm, I disagree, If I recall correctly, temperature grows 2°C hotter per 30 m of depth. The change in temperature is not caused by magma either, it's because of pressure. Feel free to correct me though, I do not seem to be able to quote a source properly at the moment.EDIT:found source, I was almost right anyway here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_gradient.Minecraft world isn't nearly deep enough to show great excursions in temperature, so maybe we want to change that. I think that very hot mines pose a greater and funnier challenge.

[AllenWL 186]

mmm, I disagree, If I recall correctly, temperature grows 2°C hotter per 30 m of depth. The change in temperature is not caused by magma either, it's because of pressure. Feel free to correct me though, I do not seem to be able to quote a source properly at the moment.EDIT:found source, I was almost right anyway here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_gradient.Minecraft world isn't nearly deep enough to show great excursions in temperature, so maybe we want to change that. I think that very hot mines pose a greater and funnier challenge.

 

Oh, I see. I just thought it should get colder, because all caves I've been to were a lot cooler than the surface