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Question about food preservation and beyond

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So if the ambient temperature is currently 30C, putting it in a dark hole is going to drop it down to 22.5C. That's almost a 10 degree change in temperature, so I would consider it incentive enough to store your food in a dark hole.

Well, it depends, I think. If the food rots fast, I would think it worth the trouble, especially if I live in hot regions.

But for most food, I don't think I can be bothered to remove and replace a block every time to get the food out

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Well, it depends, I think. If the food rots fast, I would think it worth the trouble, especially if I live in hot regions.But for most food, I don't think I can be bothered to remove and replace a block every time to get the food out

Hence the suggestion for solid doors with no window panels so no light is let in, possibly made from metal. Can't seem to find the thread where that was suggested...
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From the 78.0 Changelog:

  • Light level now affects temperature. A fully dark area will be 25% cooler than ambient temperature.

So if the ambient temperature is currently 30C, putting it in a dark hole is going to drop it down to 22.5C. That's almost a 10 degree change in temperature, so I would consider it incentive enough to store your food in a dark hole.

What happens when the air is below freezing?  -30c ambient results in -22.5c in the hole.

Is all light like from torches affecting that number or just sunlight?

 

As for an icebox, it would be nice to be able to place an ice box or snow block and it cools the air near it as opposed to a fire pit.  Even adding snowballs to a container would reduce the temperature.  Of course snow would have a decay rate rate causing it to melt, though not like food.

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What happens when the air is below freezing?  -30c ambient results in -22.5c in the hole.

Is all light like from torches affecting that number or just sunlight?

 

As for an icebox, it would be nice to be able to place an ice box or snow block and it cools the air near it as opposed to a fire pit.  Even adding snowballs to a container would reduce the temperature.  Of course snow would have a decay rate rate causing it to melt, though not like food.

Your math is wrong. 25% cooler than -30C is -37.5C, not -22.5.

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The darkness based temp reduction scales down the colder the ambient temp is. So it might turn 40C into 30C, but 10C to 7.5C. Once you reach negative temps, it stops all together.

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The darkness based temp reduction scales down the colder the ambient temp is. So it might turn 40C into 30C, but 10C to 7.5C. Once you reach negative temps, it stops all together.

 

Good to know. Does rot do something similar, or will it always be beneficial to find the coldest spot possible, even at sub-zero temps?

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These would make more sense than wooden refrigerators.  First of all, they're ancient.  Secondly, they are effective in the absence of ice.  Thirdly, the only thing necessary to make them happen is access to two differently sized clay vessels (which I thought I read is coming...big vessels ftw), sand, and water.  So, it should be stupidly easy to code (I think...I know nothing).

 

Edit: forgot the link

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot-in-pot_refrigerator

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These would make more sense than wooden refrigerators. First of all, they're ancient. Secondly, they are effective in the absence of ice. Thirdly, the only thing necessary to make them happen is access to two differently sized clay vessels (which I thought I read is coming...big vessels ftw), sand, and water. So, it should be stupidly easy to code (I think...I know nothing).Edit: forgot the linkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot-in-pot_refrigerator

The suggestion forum is your friend...While I feel bad calling out this particular post after so many suggestions have been made here, I think this is the line in the sand where it has turned into a suggestion thread. Plus I'd like to have a topic for that refrigerator, it's a great idea. Searching through pages of a topic in the wrong place is silly
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Your math is wrong. 25% cooler than -30C is -37.5C, not -22.5.

When I do -30-(-30*.25) I get -22.5

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When I do -30-(-30*.25) I get -22.5

 

That's 25% warmer because you're dealing with negative numbers. 25% of 30 is 7.5. 7.5 degrees colder than -30 is -37.5

 

Edit: The correct calculation that you should do is X - | (X * 0.25) |, with | | meaning the absolute value if you aren't familiar with that function. So if X = -30 you get

 

-30 - | (-30 * 0.25) |

-30 - | (-7.5) |

-30 - 7.5

-37.5

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That's 25% warmer because you're dealing with negative numbers. 25% of 30 is 7.5. 7.5 degrees colder than -30 is -37.5

 

Edit: The correct calculation that you should do is X - | (X * 0.25) |, with | | meaning the absolute value if you aren't familiar with that function. So if X = -30 you get

 

-30 - | (-30 * 0.25) |

-30 - | (-7.5) |

-30 - 7.5

-37.5

Yea thats why I mentioned it is the warming that occurs because of the math. (I am Travis Edrington, just forgot my login and thought my account disappeared so created a new one)

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Yea thats why I mentioned it is the warming that occurs because of the math. 

 

Did you miss this key point?

 

Once you reach negative temps, it stops all together.

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These would make more sense than wooden refrigerators.  First of all, they're ancient.  Secondly, they are effective in the absence of ice.  Thirdly, the only thing necessary to make them happen is access to two differently sized clay vessels (which I thought I read is coming...big vessels ftw), sand, and water.  So, it should be stupidly easy to code (I think...I know nothing).

 

Edit: forgot the link

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot-in-pot_refrigerator

I love this Idea and just would suggest that you should start a suggestion topic with it. I think it would be a great addition to the game. Totally inside the Age of the Game.

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These would make more sense than wooden refrigerators.  First of all, they're ancient.  Secondly, they are effective in the absence of ice.  Thirdly, the only thing necessary to make them happen is access to two differently sized clay vessels (which I thought I read is coming...big vessels ftw), sand, and water.  So, it should be stupidly easy to code (I think...I know nothing).

 

Edit: forgot the link

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot-in-pot_refrigerator

 

 

At least until after you make power.  You 8 thin pieces of wood in a circle around a wood wheel, which is then connected to a long stick*, with some Magnetite that was melted then cooled very quickly to make it retain a magnetic field from the planet, then take lots of copper, melt it, form it into a rod with some drawing, then squeeze or extrude it thru stone with a hole to make it thin, reheat to restrength, and repeat until its thin.  Then wrap around a hollow wheel a few hundred times, and stick that around the magnetite magnet, and wala! Power!

 

Now you just need to build a compressor, tubing, radiator, and a pump.  Then we can power some lights, fans to power the forge and cool the house, a microwave, tv, a computer running minecraft, etc.  Hmm...weird cryptographic messages coming over an old vacuum tube radio from an old minecraft town from far away near the edge of the map...?

 

Of course if I wanted to keep stuff cool without power I would make something like copper chest kept under running water.  Open it to get food, keep it closed and the flowing water takes the heat away.  Same idea with hot spring water or tubing near lava to make a stove.

 

*Also be used for a grain mill

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