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Casted or forged. and sand casting? Crucible sizes?

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Please note that this is a rough idea.  Its not very refined after the first topic, I kind of just ranted on after than :)



Casted vs. Forged

As a real blacksmith I have yet to forge my own tools in real life, but I do know that metal casted is just a crystalline structure of no direction. But shaped into a tool shape with a hammer causes the the crystals to be shaped into a direction making the tool or objects structural integrity stronger. when you cast metal into a sand or ceramic mold you get imperfections and and weak spots not to mention the crystalline structure. 


What I'm getting at is would it be more believable to have forged tool head last longer and preform at a higher level rather than a casted tool head. 


But since you cant cast steel tools, this only applies to bronze tier metals.  I'm not sure if this is already implemented but I think it would make forging more prominent in early ages.  


Sand Casting


Hey your probably thinking that " that would get a rid of the point of casting."


Well, here is when it gets fun.  Sand casting is much like the casting in TFC but with sand not ceramic,  the sand is a mixture of water, clay power and well sand. 


To cast metal you need to molding boxes any size will do. and to sheets of wood or metal. Its hard to explain this process with out pictures so ill revert you to a link to a metal caster I know, he explains it well


Things you can make with sand casting:  Pipe fittings and valves ( yes look in creative there's pipes its under the devices tab), Large ingots to store metal in larger volumes, and finally solid metal blocks. Yeah yeah, sounds dumb, but remember you can make molding boxes any size? haha yes please. but this runs into a problem about crucibles.


Since some of us are are hoarders of metal (Me) metal blocks and large ingots would be fantastic.



Crucibles are picked up with a lifting shank or tongs and are tipped to pour the molten metal.  You can scoop up the metal with a ceramic mold but its highly likely it going to shatter due to thermal shock.  Ceramic isn't meant to hold hot metal but clay graphite is. 



As of now I'm not sure what the Devs have in plan for the crucible but then again they might be done with it I don't know.  Crucibles come in different shapes and types and sizes.  but in TFC the crucible is the size of half a minecraft avatar.  which is real. but crucibles can be the size of a duck too. Like mine. they are good for small castings.  larger ones are good for multiple castings and large ones ( like the blocks and larger ingots.)  larger ones would require larger shanks and tongs and possibly two people to tip it safely.


The crucible and how it operates in TFC is reasonable till you get to iron or copper.  Coal can heat up a 1x1x1 meter cup of Iron. Tin, Bismuth, Lead, and Zinc you can due to their low melting temp.


A small kiln would better heat up copper, brass, bronze or gold. to a sustainable temperature.  Iron nickel and higher metal tiers would be hard to melt and sustain to pour. so that's when I'm not sure how to make a furnace or kiln to a large enough scale.  maybe a large hole filled with coal and a crucible in the center. that might work.



I might add to this or another post of how everything could work via game play but for now here is  just some raw ideas. 


Thanks for reading my rant. haha :)


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