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Vegetation

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In even moderately warm and wet environments the ground should be much more packed with vegetation, making finding wild plants (slightly) more difficult, and more rewarding. Right now the are uber easy to spot from very far away, especially since wild food plants are just normal plants that offer something for steve to eat. Also clumps of wild grains could be larger, judging they are grasses. They should also give less grain per block.

 

I'm no farmer, but getting a full, large loaf of bread from a few square meter of grain seems kinda weird.

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Regarding the understory, I totally agree. But about grain yelds- I happen to be a farmer ;) IRL a yeld of 5 tonnes per hectar is rather small one, and it means 5000 kg per 10000 m2, so 0,5kg per m2. And your normal loaf of bread uses 0,5kg of flour. So couple square meters per loaf is perfectly reasonable and believable :)

And today yelds as high as 10t/ha are not unheard of :)

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That's pretty cool, I tried to look up how much bread a farmer could get from a wheat fortis but I couldn't find anything.

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I agree about the undergrowth, but while yes you may be a farmer, these aren't crops that have been slectivly planted and cultivated for several hundred years for higher yealds. These are wild crops, totaly untaimed, with small grain. The amount should go down some. Not all the way to what it would actualy be, that would make growing grain practicaly imposible, but it should be a good bit lower than modern levels

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OK, after some quick digging in the matter of medieval wheat yelds, it seems on avarage they'd get about 0,5t/ha. Thanks for making me realize that :) So it seems you'd need about 10-15 squares of wheat for a regular loaf of bread.

 

But we already bake breads that are almost 10 times larger than normal ones, so being very exact in food yelds seems not worth it.

 

Anyway, What I'd really like to see is dropping the mind-cracking imperial system and moving into metric. It's just more intuitive. At least for non-Americans :P

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Anyway, What I'd really like to see is dropping the mind-cracking imperial system and moving into metric. It's just more intuitive. At least for non-Americans  :P

 

 

Dear god I would want this to be switched to metric, you don't know much much this irks me.

 

At least for the time being TFC is using only ounces and millibuckets (which is metric) so we don't have to convert units, but if any other units come into play I definitely want to see metric units.

 

Thanks for bringing this up

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The funny thing is that I've never managed to find out what our mysterious mb measurement stands for. Wikipedia offers these:

  • Millibar, a unit of pressure frequently used in meteorology equal to one thousandth of a bar
  • Millions of barrels (Mb, Mbbl or MMbbl), one million barrels of oil
  • Megabase, a unit of measurement in genetics
  • Body wave magnitude (mb), a type of seismic scale
  • Millibarn, a unit of area used in nuclear physics and particle physics
  • mb, a rarely used unit of Imperial weight equal to 1000 lbs or roughly 453 kilograms
  • Millibel, a hundredth of a decibel

Then I searched milibuckets just now and found out it was made up. Gosh that took longer than it needed to :D

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  • Millibar, a unit of pressure frequently used in meteorology equal to one thousandth of a bar
Then I searchedmilibuckets just now and found out it was made up. Gosh that took longer than it needed to :D

 

The mB always brought to mind a milibar for me which just confused me more.  Though I too just now found out about FTB mB. lol So you're not alone Hubertus.  :)

 

Also Reyvinn taught me something in this thread which is cool. B) The time I spend on a farm was tending to and grooming horses. Also Woo~ high-five for the metric system.

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Dunk tried to get me to do the same thing to no avail. I have some concept of temperature and distance in metric, but not food. Since I have to maintain the food and balance it, i'm not going to be working in a unit of measurement that i don't get. Also weather dealing in grams or kilograms, it ends up making all the measurements take more ui space and ends up looking ugly. I actually wrote some code at one point to convert all the ounce readings for food into grams and kilograms and it was terrible looking. So nope, this won't be happening.

 
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"Bioxx Quote"

 

Huh, the more you know. Didn't realize he took a stab at it and yeah if it makes the ui icky better to leave well enough alone. :)

 

As for the topic I agree they are easy to spot from a distance but I think that's more due to the fact they tend to jump out given their variation of colours vs the standard green grass.  Though with the addition of flowers I've certainly been fooled a few times but hey great for prettying up a house.

 

Also clumps of wild grains could be larger

 

I think the amount that spawns is random, I've found 10+ rye then only 1 wheat out in the wild.  Unless you mean the actual models should be bigger?

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