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      Hey All, A topic has come up of late in the IRC channel in regards to the general feel of the forums and the community that supports them. Things have progressed further than I would have liked with out this being addressed more publicly because I would much rather have snubbed this out sooner rather than later.. but I have been busy. Here is the general rule I would like people to follow: Wheaton's Law "Don't be a dick." Those of you from the IRC channel know that this is the only rule I ask people in there to follow and we generally have a good and lively time chatting about all manner of things. This is basic rule that just about everyone understands and I am going to expand it to the forums from here moving forward. If you can not help people in a helpful and polite manner then I simply ask you to stop. Now I generally take a back seat to moderating the forums as I like to participate in the suggestions forum fairly heavily at times and would rather do so as a forums user than a moderator. But I am also fairly well known for being the person who constantly puts their foot down and so I am stepping up and doing so on here. If you find yourself unable to respond to a message politely then I ask that you do not respond. This mostly focuses on the increasing level of hostility found within the Suggestion forum as well as the Server forum. I do not care if this is the 30th some odd time you have seen someone make the same suggestion. Or even if the new post on an older topic is one entry above the old one. I expect the members of this forum to respond politely to the user, new or old, and point to the older topic if it applies and even go the extra step to suggest they either add in new information or to summarize the outcome of the previous discussion based upon the new post's entry into it. That is what we are here for, that is why I close most topics instead of deleting them, so that they can be found and referenced down the road. The next topic is the slew of derailment attempts I have seen as of late. If you want to have fun and joke around that is what the off topic forum is for and pretty much anything goes there. I do not expect to read a suggestion thread and have to go through 3 pages of image memes people have shot back and forth. Quite simply this is a waste of my time to read and then have to clean up. Now for the summary. I am going to start taking a more active role, especially in policing the suggestion forum, and handing out warn levels to people whom I see doing this. These will be indiscriminate and applied not to just the first person who derails or is impolite on a topic or response, but to everyone whom follows the lead of that person. As I do not like doing things with out giving you all warning this post shall serve as that warning. If you have a desire to bring this topic up with me then I invite you to do so on the IRC channel. Lets raise the level of quality and grow the community. Let us not descend into the quality often found on the minecraft or league of legend forums. There is simply no need for that here. Be passionate about things, just do not be abusive.
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      Recently I've seen a few server listings showing up on the first page of the Servers forum that have been closed for an extended period of time, but have recently gotten a reply from a new member who didn't realize the server is offline. To help prevent this from happening in the future, it would be greatly appreciated if you could use the report function on the original post of any servers that have been confirmed as offline, so that the topic may be locked. If you are the admin of a server and plan on taking the server offline, please use the report function on the original post of your topic to let the TFC Staff know that the topic should be locked. If you are the admin of a server that has a locked topic, and would wish to bring the server back online, please use the report function on the original post of the topic to let the TFC Staff know that the topic should be unlocked. As always, please remember to follow rule #3 of the servers forum and update your topic title to contain the version of TFC that the server is currently running. You can do so by editing the OP, and then clicking on "Use Full Editor."

Potion conflict?

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Have you read, understood, and followed all of the rules listed in large text at the top of the support forum? (Yes/No): 
TFC Version #:
Forge Version #:
Please note that an actual number must be provided for both of the above fields.
Simply saying "current" or "latest" will result in your post being locked, due to the fact that in a large number of cases, users who say they are using the "latest" or "current" version are actually using an outdated version.

SSP/SMP (SinglePlayer/MultiPlayer): Single Player
Have you deleted your config files or are using default configs and are still able to reproduce this bug? (Yes/No): 
Do you have any mods other than Forge and TFC installed? (Yes/No): 
If yes, which mods? Ars Magica, Animation API, Armourer's Workshop, Aroma Mods, Better Storage, Blood Magic, Bookshelf, Botania, Brewing API, Chicken Chunks, ChromatiCraft, ClashsoftLib, CodeChickenCore, Dense Ores, Dragon API, Electro Magic Tools, Enchanting Plus, Enchiridion, Ender Core, Ender Storage, Fastcraft, Forbidden Magic, Hats, HatStand, iChunUtil, In Game Wiki, IndustrialCraft, Inventory Tweaks, Ironchest, IvToolkit, Jabba, MineTweaker3, Voxel Map, Pop Enchant Tags, More Potions Mod, Morph, Mystcraft, Necromancy, NEI Addons, NEI Integration, NoMoreRecipeConflict, NotEnoughCodecs, NotEnoughItems, NotEnoughKeys, NotEnoughResources, OpenBlocks, OpenEye, OpenModsLib, Pandora's Box, Reliquary, Thaumcraft, Thaumcraft Mob Aspects, Thaumcraft NEI Plugin, Thaumic Exploration, Thaumic Tinkerer, TrailMix, Twilight Forest, Waila, Waila Harvestability, Waila Plugins, Witchery, bspkrs Core, Baubles, CodeChickenLib, CodingLib, Forge Multipart, Forge Recolation, FOrge Relocation FMP, LibSandstone, Lite Loader, MrTJPCore, Potion Extension
If you have Optifine or Cauldron installed, can you still reproduce the bug after uninstalling them? (Yes/No): 
N/A link of the Crash Report:

Description: Cannot change the ID number of both Minecraft and Terrafirmacraft as config files do not contain an option to change it.


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To be honest, potions might be the least of your worries with that mod list, considering that most of them are not compatible with TFC. TFC is still fairly buggy when it comes to dimensions other than the overworld for example, so Twilight Forest and Mystcraft is essentially pointless to have installed. Dense Ores is also pretty pointless, considering the size of TFC veins and that ore spawning is completely different from vanilla. Unless you have something to scale durability and damage, armor and weapons from other mods will be useless, because the armor will break very quickly, and the weapons will barely do any damage to mobs. You'll also need to use something to scale the health of all of the non-TFC mobs if you don't want to be able to kill them all with a hit or two just using your fists.


The crash report shows that the issue is with a mod by Darkhax, so it's probably with Enchanting plus. As a side note, experience levels in TFC are actually used for increasing your max health, so it's really not a good idea to spend them on enchantments.


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thats alot of mods........ im pretty sure there would be problems even in vanilla with that list


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