Dries007

OK, since it seems to be related to textures it would make sense it only crashes on the client. I'll look at it some time after the 27th probably. I have a lot of school work right now.

I rebuilt the modpack, and with the current versions of all of the mods, I was unable to duplicate the issue.  Sorry for bothering you.

Oh well, I'm guessing I fixed it with the railcraft fix.

When viewing the uses of a food such as venison or dough I get this crash: https://gist.github.com/3d9533af6b8364e82125

This is an issue with TFC itself, and has since been fixed. Will be gone in the next TFC build.

I've used your mod exclusively for the food merge, which works without the ASM.  (And should be merged into base TFC, IMHO.)  I only just now found a mod which requires the translation feature (Adventurer's Amulets)

 

Incompatible Mods (from my notes) without your disable flag:

      buildcraft-6.4.9.jar  IguanaTweaks-1.7.10-2B.jar  ImmersiveEngineering-0.6.0.jar  PneumaticCraft-1.7.10-1.11.16-138-universal.jar

 

I'll have to build a new server to get you logs.

That would be greatly appreciated. I can try to fix the bug. I thought I fixed most of the ASM issues when I fixed the railcraft incompatibility, but I guess not. Just to be sure, you are using build nr 15 right? (Otherwise you'll have to try that fist)

Hey, couple of things.  I could not get TFC-Tweaks working with a couple of mods without the ASM Disable flag.  (I assume that you are aware of this, since you have published the ASM disable flag...)  But if you want additional info on the incompatibilities, let me know.

Second thing, I notice in the autogenerated .config file, the properties for water/lava are created as:

 

 

Should they really be "FTC" or are the properties really "TFC"?

 

Thanks! -- Can't live without the food autostacking.

I'm dyslectic, that tends to happen more often then you'd think.

I would like to know what mods you think are incompatible, plus the log of the (I assume) crash when you start and/or use any water/lava related item. I'll try and fix it.

The reason I make the ASM hack disableable is to make it easier to fix out what is happening, but since it makes the mod kind of useless, I don't want people to have to use it.

Yes it does, only when the item is equipped of course.

GooglyEyes

I think  that is about as much info as you really need...

Should be compatible with all .79 builds.

(Only tested .26 though)

For more information, see the link below.

Preferred download link (Cuseforge, Stable versions only)

Secondary link (Jenkins, May be unstable)

Source + Licence here.

This mod doesn't need TFC, but since it has specific comparability for the TFC armor types, I felt it was appropriate to post it here.

The recipes are a helmet + a glass pane.

The item inherits the stats from whatever items you make the googly eyes with.

You can try and see if tfc-tweaks covers your needs.

Well, if you are already using a bukkit system, then by all means. But we didn't want to have to use bukkit just for the logger.

We where of the opinion that a good logger is all that is required to keep players in check, and it has proven true.

Of course we don't run a PVP server, that may require a bit more structure then just being able to ban people when they misbehave.

The only thing missing ATM is that inventories are not tracked. As in: you can see that someone was messing with the inventory, but you cannot track exact item movements inside of them.

Since we'd like to make the code generic (aka applicable to vanilla and all mods) that would require some serious work, and we didn't have the time when we wanted to start using the mod.

It ended up not being an issue, because we set the rules to be: don't snoop in other people's chest.

Good point Dries007. Try as much as possible to use Databases instead of Flat Files. They are much faster and it cuts on the Lag.

Prism Dynmap and Towny can be configured for MySQL.

It only works with MySQL (its the prism port for forge I was working on a while back)

Oh, if you want a prism like mod for forge: https://jenkins.dries007.net/job/D3Log/

It works fine for logging, but rolling back can be a PITA. I wouldn't recommended it.

It also makes a TON of data, so make sure you are ready for gigabytes of MySQL DBs.

(We have been using it on Deadpine's sub server with great success)

Ah, great

I'll have a look

Sorry, don't have the log anymore...

But as I said, it is super easy to reproduce.

The issue has been fixed, go grab build 14 and it should work

For TFC .26+, use build #14 or later.

Some of the food handling code has been changed, I'll look at it today. Could you please post the log (from the server, use pastbin please)?

What versions of everything are you using?

Yup

You are using the wrong version of the plugin, if you want to use TFC .22, you need to use build 23.

The event system uses any method with "@SubscribeEvent", it looks for the type of the argument.

You should be using 

net.minecraftforge.event.world.WorldEvent.Load

for example:

@SubscribeEvent

public void onWorldLoad(WorldEvent.Load e)

The bold parts are important, and shouldn't change.

(Unless you want another event, in which case you should only change the argument. The method name doesn't matter.)

You can also register for the same event multiple times, if you need that for some reason.

Class name doesn't matter.

I tend to stick with one (or two) event handler class like this:

Two in the case of Client only events, to prevent the server from crashing when it tries to load client events.

public class EventHandler{    @SubscribeEvent    public void onWorldLoad(WorldEvent.Load e)    {        // Do stuff here    }}

To register the event handler do in your @mod class

What eventbus you need to register your handler with depends on what events you'd like to catch. To be safe, register it with both. BUT ONLY ONCE!

@Mod.EventHandlerpublic void preInit(FMLPreInitializationEvent event){    MinecraftForge.EVENT_BUS.register(new EventHandler());    FMLCommonHandler.instance().bus().register(new EventHandler());    if (event.getSide().isClient())    {        MinecraftForge.EVENT_BUS.register(new ClientEventHandler());        FMLCommonHandler.instance().bus().register(new ClientEventHandler());    }}

Also, by using the "if (event.getSide().isClient())" you can avoid having to use a client proxy.

It is important, but is certainly not the most important thing anyone will ever learn. And it should not be taught by the government, but privately by parents and/or other private entities, and it should not be taught to young kids. Maybe start at 15 or 16 at the earliest. I will say no more, as this is pretty off topic.

I can't think of very many things that can ruin you life earlier then having to care for a child you didn't want / are not ready for.

(That you can blame on on proper education.)

We got the very basics at 12. Which is good, because its right around the average age of first menstruation.

The more detailed stuff came at 14 to 16, depending on what you did when in school.

But that can be too late (girl in my class had her first serious boyfriend when she was 14, and she is still with him now 5 years later).

Another major issue is the internet, you don't want young kids to get google'ing.

I guess I can agree with what Darmo said, it depends on local culture. But better be safe then sorry.

As off-topic as this has become, I'm letting this thread remain open because of the continued interest in the discussion. However I'd like to remind everyone to remain civil and not let your thoughts or emotions that are brought out here, spill over into the rest of the forums.

It is the Off-Topic section after all  . I decided against creating an anonymous account, because I hoped it would help avoid this discussion turning into a extremist shit-show. (You decide if it worked  )

This allows them to influence the most early and highly impressionable years, where kids are extremely easily brainwashed by liberal education.

Or most easily brainwashed by there conservative parents. This sword cuts both ways. At least in a school there can be oversight.

But cakes and photographs are NOT constitutional guarantees.

I guess you are right, I do advocate the right of private entities to censor content (websites banning hatefull users and such), so I should also accept the right of private entities to refuse service to anyone at will. Though I still think all criteria should be treated equally. 

As for homeschooling, it can be a mixed bags, and it's very much up to states to enforce standards and that's how it SHOULD be.

Agreed. And we do have the option to homeschool, its just so strict hardly anyone uses it. Its mostly used by diplomats who don't want to send there kids to a school where they'd have to be thought in Dutch and/or French, so they hire a certified professional.

So, yes, it needs to be an option.

Also, I was unaware of standards set by states, all I read about mentioned the federal gov.

Do you really think the government should be teaching sex Ed? Do you really think it is a that important?

Yes, it is that important. It is possibly the most important single bit of education a child/teenager can get.

All I will say is that there's scarcely a shred of evidence that would ever convince to believe in evolution.

Then I'm afraid I can only disregard your thoughts on anything with basis in more then just subjective opinion.

Most of the founding fathers hoped it would be gone soon enough anyway, and they new that if they banned slavery in the Constitution, most of the states wouldn't sign it. 

So, as I said, nations should evolve.

And comparing Christianity to slavery is so bigoted and so wrong in so many levels.

So is comparing normal socialism to fascism or nazism.

You are completely wrong about realistic socialism, I suggest you read this.

So you think parents shouldn't be allowed to educate their own children. You think children must be educated by the government? This pretty much sums up half of what is wrong with Socialism.

School != Government.

Children need to be educated by professionals, and by standards set not by government and/or churches, but by experts. (That step is where is goes wrong most of the time, including here sometimes)

Parents are generally incapable of providing a proper schooling, so over here, if you want to homeschool your kinds, you have to be certified.

School also provide an environment where kids can be more then just son/daughter of there parents.

I don't go to church, so I should not have that social experience? Another example of substituting a proper, neutral environment (at least that is what it should be), by an environment of indoctrination.

That's one of the first things Hiter did, get gov't more involved. He started the Hitler Youth, and indoctrinated countless German children into practical worship of the Nazi Party and NATIONAL SOCIALISM.

The Hitlerjugend is a great example of extremism, and incredible social engineering, but that is about it. Its just as bad as slavery."

The term "National Socialism" arose out of attempts to create a nationalist redefinition of "socialism", as an alternative to both internationalist Marxist socialism and free market capitalism. [...] It rejected the Marxist concept of class struggle, opposed ideas of class equality and international solidarity, and sought to defend private property and businesses.

In other words, Nazism isn't socialism at all.

If the government controls education, then it controls all of its people, and controls everything; most likely for very negative purposes.

This is exactly what churches do too.

I mean, teaching creationism instead of evolution? (I don't mind teaching both, in context)

No proper sex ed, because you have to wait until marriage?

There is probably more examples, but I hope you see my point.

That is not separation of church and state, that is anti-religious oppression/persecution. Separation of church and state means that the church is not the state and vice versa. It means that there is a state that is not a religious institution; basically just not a theocracy. It does not mean public leaders can't show their religion and that the state can't adopt priciples from a religion. Since America is a Judeo-Christian nation with mostly Judeo-Christian founders and is founded on Judeo-Christian beliefs, we incorporate Judeo-Christian principles, and that is completely appropriate.

No its not completely appropriate. Your nation was also founded on slavery. 3 / 5 of a man. So should the US go back to that too? Nations evolve, just like everything else.

Also, I shouldn't have to deal with your religion when you serve me in a public institution. (With perhaps the exception of a "<religion name>'s party", since its the founding principle of such a party.) In private you can do whatever you want, but if you want to work for the government that is a requirement and something you agree with when signing your contract. Same with political party symbols.

You can't wear a rainbow t-shirt either, if that is any consolation.

that private education and homeschooling should be banned

Its should. There is piles of evidence that is a major cause of indoctrination of children, and it causes negligence towards the public schools. Homeschooling is also not good for your kid's social skills.

(Private education can be necessary, and it can be done well, but the US isn't an example of such a system.)

We have 2 major school system, about equal in size. Both equally funded by the government: State run schools and christian schools. Both are by law non profit businesses, with quality standards to maintain.

I went to a christian school because it was simply the best option near me. The only difference is that christian schools are not required to accept you as a student if you have a bad record, and then I didn't get to choose what religion class to follow.

that people should go to jail for not catering to homosexuals

It you can go to jail for not serving a black man, you should go to jail for not serving a gay man. You can't pick and choose with equability, otherwise its meaningless.

That does certainly not mean you should treat minorities better then the general population, just equally.

It's funny, my thoughts on Europe are similar.  They basically formed all the great foundations of the world as we know it today - including many modern innovations and the notions of tolerance and freedom.  And now it's just a decaying heap of socialism and laziness (except Germany) antithetical to freedom.   And maybe a hotbed of theocracy in a couple generations, with all the Muslims you guys are taking in and, if the news is to be believed, not assimilating very well.  That'll be interesting for the atheists among you.  But for now it's a very warm and comfortable decaying heap of socialism, I'm sure. 

Let me remind you that we (Belgium at least, but as far as I can find most of the EU) have absolute separation of state and church. You are not allowed to show any religious affiliation whatsoever when holding public office. (including secretaries, librarians, ....)

The US has as official motto 'In God we trust'. You take oaths on bibles. Your pledge of allegiance has 'One nation under God' in it.

Even if the EU takes in ALL Syrian refugees, our total percentage of Muslims would go from 4% to a whopping 5%.

I agree that the assimilation process is THE problem right now, especially since most refugees/immigrants end up in communities of other refugees/immigrants where they are less likely to integrate into the society and culture.

Your Political Compass Economic Left/Right: -7.5 

Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.21

So... there. Sanders anyone? Right-wing politics are destroying America.

I'm somewhere in the -4 and -4 area didn't write it down.

Political extremism is destroying America. But most of that does seem to come from the right wing.

This whole thread just reminded my of this

 It seems wrong to blame a whole country for a situation that some of its liberal elites had a hand in creating. And the EU leaders had as big as or an even greater role in the 2008 collapse than the Americans did.

Yes, the Treaty of Versailles. After we saved Europe's ass the first time in WWI. (No, I don't agree with the Treaty of Versailles, as it established a prototype UN called the League of Nations. It was a complete train wreck, as is the current UN.)

Woah, I didn't see that coming! Nazi Germany was America's fault?!? Of course! Everything is America's fault! They only saved us twice, and ended the Soviet Union, but yeah, everything is still their fault.

It totally wasn't Britain's fault. All they did was invite the Nazis to invade various nations. It totally wasn't the USSR's fault. All they did was ally with Nazi Germany. It wasn't the German citizens' faults. All they did was step aside and allow the Nazis to take control, even though they knew it was the wrong thing to do.

The 2008 collapse was a direct result of the US housing bubble, with it being exacerbated by bad policy in the EU.

No, Nazism wasn't the US's fault, it was the Treaty of Versailles, signed by GB, US, France, Italy and Japan.

A problem again exacerbated by bad policy decisions in GB and France.

Also, (in the 1930's) I wonder what you would do if your county went into hyperinflation* and you had to use wheelbarrows to carry your week worth of salary home. And then someone appeared with all of the answers. (Oh and if you spoke out against them you'd disappear.) I don't think there would be much resistance, not while it was still possible anyways.

* Hyperinflation on the scale of 1,000,000,000,000 to 1 in 9 years! Prices doubled every two days in 1923.