Weapons / Tools: Benefits & Drawbacks of each type

[kotoroshinoto 97]

Something I think has been missing

Stone Tools

Durability at least partially dependent on materials used to make tool

(type of stone definitely affects it, not sure about wood/bone handle differences, but I wouldn't be suprised)

Metal tools- durability depends on metal type, enables creation of several new item types and the sword, which no longer has a stone version

--- Stone+ Tools ---

• Axe
  • Fairly effective as a weapon
  • tool to take down trees
  • Converts log into 1 plank
• Shovel
  • Breaks diggable block types very quickly
  • Fairly cheap to make
  • Not very effective as a weapon, currently about as strong as a knife, but uses durability
• Pickaxe
  • Breaks minable block types and returns mined resource
  • Somewhat effective as a weapon, same damage as axe, but uses durability faster, better to use other choices
• Prospector Pick
  • Locates ore within a scanning area when used
  • Not effective as a weapon
• Knife
  • Slightly better than fighting bare-handed
  • other uses may come later
• Hammer
  • Used with chisel for masonry (making stairs, shaving layers, etc)
  • Used with anvil for metalworking
  • Use in crafting area with certain stones to make flux
  • (perplexingly) not very effective as a weapon (getting hit by a hammer HURTS IRL)
    • might as well be barehanded
    • maybe we should get warhammers
• Hoe
  • Use to till ground to plant crops
  • Not very effective as a weapon, might as well be barehanded

---Metal Only Tools---

• Chisel
  • Use with hammer to shave/edit blocks in masonry
  • Use in crafting area with broken stones to make stone bricks
  • Can be used to make "shiny smooth"stone out of pristine "smooth" stone
• Saw
  • VERY effective at cutting trees down
  • Converts logs into 3 planks
  • Not very effective as a weapon
• Scythe
  • Absolutely wrecks leaf blocks in large groups
  • Makes churning through trees to get resources very easy.
• Sword
  • More effective weapon than axes
  • Can only be made of metal (double ingots)
• Mace
  • Alternate weapon to sword
  • According to wiki, they are functionally identical currently

[kotoroshinoto 97]

Having the most optimal tool may not always be the wisest course. For instance, early on when metal is scarce, why not just make and use a saw when cutting trees down? Having an axe around may help defend yourself without requiring you to use metal on a sword, maybe save uses of the saw for converting the logs to planks if you've got a building project going. Having the axe already equipped means you can just turn and attack (not that switching is hard, but its less of a reaction required, which might save you)

[EstebanLB 183]

You are listing each of the tool's functions. Your point with this thread is...?

[kotoroshinoto 97]

You are listing each of the tool's functions. Your point with this thread is...?

People don't always manage their resources correctly. It may not be the wisest course to just make one of everything the second you've got the ingots and it makes sense to make only what you need.

I've seen people say things like "just make a saw and you'll never need an axe again", which isn't necessarily the best choice in some situations.

And yes, its listing the functions, thank you captain obvious

[kotoroshinoto 97]

Usually if I'm out foraging for resources on the surface i'll carry an axe as my primary tree cutting tool until i've got enough metal ore collected to warrant using (and potentially losing, if creepers show up) the material for a saw/scythe combo.

A stone axe doesnt take all that long to cut a tree down and only takes 1 inventory space, where the saw/scythe take 2. Doesn't seem like much, but it can make the difference between # of trips, and response time. When you're carrying saw/scythe you're also going to be carrying a weapon, which takes another space, and possibly also a shovel, depending on what you plan to do.

Sometimes its best to just bring the stuff in for processing and use the saw at home.

Also, at what point do you start making carrying a sword? I haven't really bothered yet, as the axe seems to be enough for me.

I don't believe I've ever had a reason to make armor, they use SO many ingots, and I rarely need it.

[XelNigma 11]

Some of your "data" is wrong.

Such as you have the Axe listed as a "fairly effective weapon" and the pick ax listed as "Somewhat effective as a weapon" when in fact they both deal the exact same amount of damage only difference is that the pick ax loses durability quicker when attacking.

you also have the shovel, hoe and hammer listed as "not very effective as a weapon" when the hoe and hammer give no damage bonus (might as well be bare handed) yet the shovel does. a shovel (stone) will kill an enemy twice as fast as using bare hands. with axe and pick ax killing even faster.

I think it was 22 unarmed punches or 11 hits from a stone shovel or 8 swings from a stone axe and pick ax to kill a zombie when last I tested it.

I think the knife had a damage boost to be equal with the shovel. haven't tested it sense the change.

[kotoroshinoto 97]

Some of your "data" is wrong.

Such as you have the Axe listed as a "fairly effective weapon" and the pick ax listed as "Somewhat effective as a weapon" when in fact they both deal the exact same amount of damage only difference is that the pick ax loses durability quicker when attacking.

you also have the shovel, hoe and hammer listed as "not very effective as a weapon" when the hoe and hammer give no damage bonus (might as well be bare handed) yet the shovel does. a shovel (stone) will kill an enemy twice as fast as using bare hands. with axe and pick ax killing even faster.

I think it was 22 unarmed punches or 11 hits from a stone shovel or 8 swings from a stone axe and pick ax to kill a zombie when last I tested it.

I think the knife had a damage boost to be equal with the shovel. haven't tested it sense the change.

made some changes, is it more suited to what you were thinking now?