yosomith

Well some will but other wont, I got lucky with the Hickories but I imagine something else, say the Willow tree will not I can imagine a whole forest full of trees spaced that far apart would be nice

Edit: Yay it worked This is what I was talking about dry grass vs nice grass this is my overall tree farm This is an upclose view of how I did the water and trees This is an alternate shot of the above I probably could have gotten away with less water spots then I have used as they do have a range to how much a water hole will hydrate but I like things nice and even and I was going for a more compact area for my tree farm. I do have a goal where I will turn all the dry grass within a certain range of my home to the nicer hydrated grass.

yes that has been taken into account since the original trees had been sitting there for years of time (one year = 24 hours irl) and no growth over about a weeks worth of playing irl. As soon as water was introduced trees started coming up only where the water was (visual representation of area with water from dry grass) after only a few hours of playing. Since then I have removed the water and redid my tree area with pools of water making the area nice and green with lots of growing trees.

Yes it is a vanilla item, maybe it's an issue with the original faithful pack, I'm not sure. All I know is I followed your instructions of downloading the faithful pack and putting your pack into the zip and then there was an issue with the item frames. Edit: Ok I found the issue, the faithful vanilla link was missing some textures, more then I saw just in my game. A download through the customizer fixed the issue.

Ok, just put on your texture pack and I've noticed the item frames have no texture and they show up with a pink background when placed on a wall

ok testing reveals that yes, take a hickory tree into a low rainfall area and it doesn't grow, however if you add some water in the area via a bucket like I did the tree will grow

Ok, so I can play fine for awhile but I get crashes constantly and I am getting sick of them. Can someone help me to narrow down what is causing them and maybe how to fix? Here is obligatory wall of text ---- Minecraft Crash Report ---- // Surprise! Haha. Well, this is awkward. Time: 9/12/12 1:47 PM Description: Unexpected error java.lang.IllegalStateException: Already tesselating! at bao.b(Tessellator.java:504) at bao.b(Tessellator.java:494) at azf.a(EffectRenderer.java:167) at bac.a(EntityRenderer.java:1588) at bac.b(EntityRenderer.java:1113) at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.J(Minecraft.java:888) at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.run(Minecraft.java:783) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source) A detailed walkthrough of the error, its code path and all known details is as follows: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Head -- Stacktrace: at bao.b(Tessellator.java:504) at bao.b(Tessellator.java:494) at azf.a(EffectRenderer.java:167) at bac.a(EntityRenderer.java:1588) -- Affected level -- Details: Level name: MpServer All players: 1 total; [ayk['yosomith'/14642377, l='MpServer', x=2308.83, y=156.62, z=-2938.70]] Chunk stats: MultiplayerChunkCache: 441 Level seed: -4373179775201892589 Level generator: ID 00 - DEFAULT, ver 1. Features enabled: false Level generator options: Level spawn location: World: (343,157,-9471), Chunk: (at 7,9,1 in 21,-592; contains blocks 336,0,-9472 to 351,255,-9457), Region: (0,-19; contains chunks 0,-608 to 31,-577, blocks 0,0,-9728 to 511,255,-9217) Level time: 63411406 game time, 65535110 day time Level dimension: 0 Level storage version: 0x00000 - Unknown? Level weather: Rain time: 0 (now: false), thunder time: 0 (now: false) Level game mode: Game mode: survival (ID 0). Hardcore: false. 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IntCache: cache: 0, tcache: 0, allocated: 1, tallocated: 33 FML: MCP v7.23 FML v4.5.17.479 Minecraft Forge 6.4.1.416 Optifine OptiFine_1.4.5_HD_U_D3 9 mods loaded, 9 mods active mcp [Minecraft Coder Pack] (minecraft.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized->Initialized->Post-initialized->Available FML [Forge Mod Loader] (coremods) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized->Initialized->Post-initialized->Available Forge [Minecraft Forge] (coremods) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized->Initialized->Post-initialized->Available lloverlay [Light Level Overlay] (lloverlay_v0.9-mc1_4_4-forge.zip) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized->Initialized->Post-initialized->Available mod_InvTweaks [inventory Tweaks] (InvTweaks-1.45-1.4.4.zip) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized->Initialized->Post-initialized->Available mod_SmartMoving [smart Moving] (Smart Moving Client for ModLoader.zip) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized->Initialized->Post-initialized->Available mod_SmartRender [smart Render] (Smart Moving Client for ModLoader.zip) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized->Initialized->Post-initialized->Available mod_ReiMinimap [mod_ReiMinimap] ([1.4.5]ReiMinimap_v3.2_05.zip) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized->Initialized->Post-initialized->Available TerraFirmaCraft [TerraFirmaCraft] (TFCraft-Universal-Core-B2-Build69.zip) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized->Initialized->Post-initialized->Available LWJGL: 2.4.2 OpenGL: GeForce GT 630/PCIe/SSE2 GL version 4.2.0, NVIDIA Corporation Is Modded: Definitely; Client brand changed to 'forge,fml' Type: Client (map_client.txt) Texture Pack: bioxx Beta Build 69 (3).zip Profiler Position: N/A (disabled) Vec3 Pool Size: 3688 (206528 bytes; 0 MB) allocated, 231 (12936 bytes; 0 MB) used The mods I use in rough order of installed are as follows: Minecraft 1.4.5 (not a mod I know), Forge 6.4.1.416, MC 1.4.5 Player API Universal 1.0, TFC B69, Rei's Minimap 3.2.05, Smart Moving 11.9, InvTweaks 1.4.5, Light Level Overlay 0.9, Optifine 1.4.5 HD Universal D3 I tried upping optifine to the newest version D4 but that made things alot worse. Any help with this is appreciated.

What I am attempting is to get trees to grow in a place where normally they wont. The particular tree is a Hickory, I know they grow in a rainfall area of 4000 but I want to grow them in the rainfall area of 125, if it's not possible then fine but if it is I'd like to know how.

Ok, thanks for the reply, guess I just need to figure out a better place to put it then

I'm not sure if this is a bug or not but anytime I make a forge in the current build there must be a square of open sky above the forge for it to work. My bloomery works fine in its underground location but if I put in a forge in the ground it wont work, if I dig a hole so there is open sky it does. Is this a bug or intended?

Alright, so I want to make some trees grow in a low rainfall area (125) there is a higher rainfall area of 4000 close by but I was wondering if it's possible to do it in the low rainfall area? Like maybe adding in some water or ponds or things or what?

Not that I don't like your mod, because I do, but isn't the way the mod works almost counter-productive to this statement? To find the best way to smith an item naturally takes a long time of sitting in front of a forge, bloomery and anvil to figure everything out. I'm not saying it's a bad thing or your doing something wrong, I can also understand what you mean I guess. But in my opinion you have swapped out one monotonous task for a different monotonous task. Still don't take my opinion as a negative because I still like and enjoy your mod

I can tell you I have done testing with a metal axe and a metal saw, both tin and the saw was faster by around 2 secs And yes this was tested with a stopwatch several times

You do realize that there was a spoiler written into the title of the post right?

I have no problem using a stone axe for a sequoia or a kapok as I wouldn't waste the steel on a saw for that job but just about any other tree I'd go my saw any day.