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      Hey All, A topic has come up of late in the IRC channel in regards to the general feel of the forums and the community that supports them. Things have progressed further than I would have liked with out this being addressed more publicly because I would much rather have snubbed this out sooner rather than later.. but I have been busy. Here is the general rule I would like people to follow: Wheaton's Law "Don't be a dick." Those of you from the IRC channel know that this is the only rule I ask people in there to follow and we generally have a good and lively time chatting about all manner of things. This is basic rule that just about everyone understands and I am going to expand it to the forums from here moving forward. If you can not help people in a helpful and polite manner then I simply ask you to stop. Now I generally take a back seat to moderating the forums as I like to participate in the suggestions forum fairly heavily at times and would rather do so as a forums user than a moderator. But I am also fairly well known for being the person who constantly puts their foot down and so I am stepping up and doing so on here. If you find yourself unable to respond to a message politely then I ask that you do not respond. This mostly focuses on the increasing level of hostility found within the Suggestion forum as well as the Server forum. I do not care if this is the 30th some odd time you have seen someone make the same suggestion. Or even if the new post on an older topic is one entry above the old one. I expect the members of this forum to respond politely to the user, new or old, and point to the older topic if it applies and even go the extra step to suggest they either add in new information or to summarize the outcome of the previous discussion based upon the new post's entry into it. That is what we are here for, that is why I close most topics instead of deleting them, so that they can be found and referenced down the road. The next topic is the slew of derailment attempts I have seen as of late. If you want to have fun and joke around that is what the off topic forum is for and pretty much anything goes there. I do not expect to read a suggestion thread and have to go through 3 pages of image memes people have shot back and forth. Quite simply this is a waste of my time to read and then have to clean up. Now for the summary. I am going to start taking a more active role, especially in policing the suggestion forum, and handing out warn levels to people whom I see doing this. These will be indiscriminate and applied not to just the first person who derails or is impolite on a topic or response, but to everyone whom follows the lead of that person. As I do not like doing things with out giving you all warning this post shall serve as that warning. If you have a desire to bring this topic up with me then I invite you to do so on the IRC channel. Lets raise the level of quality and grow the community. Let us not descend into the quality often found on the minecraft or league of legend forums. There is simply no need for that here. Be passionate about things, just do not be abusive.
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      Recently I've seen a few server listings showing up on the first page of the Servers forum that have been closed for an extended period of time, but have recently gotten a reply from a new member who didn't realize the server is offline. To help prevent this from happening in the future, it would be greatly appreciated if you could use the report function on the original post of any servers that have been confirmed as offline, so that the topic may be locked. If you are the admin of a server and plan on taking the server offline, please use the report function on the original post of your topic to let the TFC Staff know that the topic should be locked. If you are the admin of a server that has a locked topic, and would wish to bring the server back online, please use the report function on the original post of the topic to let the TFC Staff know that the topic should be unlocked. As always, please remember to follow rule #3 of the servers forum and update your topic title to contain the version of TFC that the server is currently running. You can do so by editing the OP, and then clicking on "Use Full Editor."
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Zzapdragon

Looking to study a town for a school assignment

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Hi, I'm taking an agriculture class and one of my projects is about putting myself in an early society and describing what i would need to do to get food for the rest of my community. I thought Terrafirmacraft would be an excelent way to study this subject as any town on TFC requires a multitude of people doing different jobs to survive. Rarely have I encountered anyone who can jack-of-all-trades this modpack.

Here is the transcript for my assignment.

"For this assignment, you will put yourself in the place of a person living in an early society. You will describe your community and how you obtain the food you need to survive. You will need to include detailed information, such as:

  • the number of members in your community
  • the location and description of the area in which you live
  • how you obtain your food sources
  • a detailed explanation of what types of foods you obtain
  • a detailed explanation of the interactions between the people in your community and the roles they play in the community

You may use the information in the lessons. You will also need to use some outside resources to complete this assignment. Please reference the sources you have used. You may complete the assignment in a Word document or a PowerPoint presentation."

I'm an avid terrafirma craft player and i've been a part of many towns and server communities. I'd like to both get back into playing this modpack and get this project done. In order to actually learn you have to be interested in your research am I right?

I'd preferably like to study a mid-tier town with at least 5-6 players. The town would need a farmer, butcher, and a cook. It would have to be nice looking but at the same time easy to describe in words (I'd LIKE to insert a screenshot). Most importantly I want these players to be mature adults that can take things seriously and have a sense of priority with their respective jobs.

My username is Zzapdragon, I am available monday through friday after 3. Weekends I work dispatching phones, so online gaming on the weekends is a no-no. If you're interested send me a pm me or reply to this thread. Thank you!

( And for the admins, I wasn't sure where to post this if you'd like it moved I will be totally cool as long as people can read it)

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I would caution you that Terrafirmacraft is believable not realistic, and while it can give you a feel for how towns worked and may be a good supplemental resource it is by no means a substitute for proper research. If you tell your teacher the community you put yourself into consisted of 5 people you might not get a great grade.

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I would caution you that Terrafirmacraft is believable not realistic, and while it can give you a feel for how towns worked and may be a good supplemental resource it is by no means a substitute for proper research. If you tell your teacher the community you put yourself into consisted of 5 people you might not get a great grade.

My teacher is flexible. I spoke with her prior to this post. She's also seen me play this modpack plenty of times and has shown alot of interest in it. I would not have posted this without her permission to use TFC as a resource. The crop rotation, seasons, harvest, refining, and food preservation was totally what she was looking for. I just need the "community model" fr the assignment.

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Cool! I have not had a lot of teachers who would be that flexible (a surprising number of them said flat out they did not believe games could be used to teach anything). I can't really help you since I play single player but I wish you good luck!

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This is actually what happens on my server. My friends and I (there's 4 of us) play togather on a private server hosted by me. We all have different roles.

    Me         - Blacksmith, Miner. (get ore and make tools)

    Friend 1 - Builder, Terra-former. (gets the terrain done and builds on it)

    Friend 2 - Farmer, Shepherd, Butcher, Cook. (gets us food)

    Friend 3 - Explorer, Hunter, Harvester. (explores the world, hunts deer, goes fishing)

 

Everybody has a task to do, always busy.

A big two-story house can fit us all in quite well.

We have a farm with grain and vegetables, we have a garden with trees and bushes, and out explorer brings us venison from time to time.

Many different storage buildings help us sort our resorses.

A big blacksmith provides all the facilities needed for the production of steel and can store up to 128 ingots of each type.

We have a barn for the cattle, watermill for our grain (just decoration building), water sawmill for logs (just decoration aswell).

We have a tower for observation.

Out town's frontier is a big earthen shaft, but we are planning to make a descent stone brick wall.

 

You can check the develompent of this town here.

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The thing is

 

1.) The numbers in TFC are often based off of gameplay reasons rather than real life

2.) Real human beings have to worry about eating every month of thier lives, in TFC you only have to worry about eating when you log in to the server. And time passes as long as a single person is logged in to the server, where as time always passes in real life

3.) Your agricultural tools will only include tools currently implented by TFC

4.) You will the crop rotation system in TFC does not describe the nuitrients used by the plants, nor will you get real life methodology from crop rotation

5.) Most servers use 96 day years rather than 365.25 day years. All of them use 20 minute days

 

For these reasons, you would be using a abstracted simulation based off of real life rather than basing things on real life

 

Using TFC as a model, you would probably get awnsers such as this:

 

Why did you settle here?

 

We found lots of native copper nuggets on the ground, the rock layer close by has limestone which can be used as flux, and there is clay nearby

 

Describe this land:

 

Sure, first we leveled the ground using creeper explosions and shovels. Then we build this wall with lips so giant spiders can't jump over the walls......

 

Basically you are doing yourself a disservice by using your hobby as your project. If you would instead use real life sources, you could potentially enjoy your hobby more as you would learn more about the facts behind the scenes of TFC

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