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And you can also get a feel for how hot a metal should be to do what and how long it takes for metal to cool and stuff like that

Given how soft lead is when cold, you probably wouldn't actually get a feel for this by practicing with lead.

Actually I was talking about real life.

So was I.

 Also, there is absolutely no way to smelt iron with charcoal. It burns too fast and doesn't get nearly hot enough, even with bellows.

You sure on this? Because I know some people who have done it.

I think he said iron because copper and other metals don't react good to constant bending. Copper is easily workable, and bending it everytime you use the shears could easily break it. Same for the copper alloys, but that's just my thoughts.

Heh heh the things I take for granted working with iron all the time.... I really ought to branch out and try other metals.

Draw->punch->upset is just a technique sequence that vaguely represents making and setting a rivet. No need to make an extra item actually appear and get used up during those three moves.

And yes, I was thinking of something more like pruning shears. Welding probably would be more appropriate for sheep shears.

If the knife blades will be weld together it will be impossible to move them, I think it should be possible to create screws in the anvil and then craft them with the knife blades. This way sheers will still require iron. Their durability will depend on the material the knife blades are made of, which is great.

I'd be more inclined to use a rivet than a screw. Involves simpler tools and you could sort of encode the process in an anvil recipe already -- something like draw [not last], punch [not last], upset [last] (ok, peining a rivet isn't exactly upsetting, but whatever).

A couple smallish things...

1. I'm not sure if TFC does this, but the consensus I hear from other blacksmiths is that charcoal burns away faster than pit coal.

2. I find cooking on a forge more believable than cooking with pit coal (green coal as there is no coke in TFC), having smelled burning coal and cooked meat on a forge.

There just isn't much reason to require a pickaxe to move an anvil

Yeah... I've repositioned an anvil IRL. I've never used a pickaxe IRL. The long time it takes in game to break one by hand is definitely justified though

Broadly speaking, I like to see new and interesting ways to accomplish things. In Minecraft, that often means using clever architecture (for productivity, defensibility,etc.).

The one thing that annoys me most in LPs is when the LPer doesn't really know the game, but I don't think that's a serious risk here.

theese are really easy to implement.

Ok, I'll bite. How would you go about implementing them?

It might be fun to write a script for running this process in all possibilities.

Yeah, it's only a matter of time before TFC drives me to just write a toy ILP solver ¬_¬

I've had this happen with ash trees (smaller trees -> axe doesn't break part way through). In a dense forest, chopping the base of one trunk may fell multiple trees. Breaking leaf blocks so the two trees aren't connected seems to prevent this.

I have a crash with Optifine HD C6 and TFC 78.11. Report follows:

---- Minecraft Crash Report ----

// Would you like a cupcake?

Time: 4/29/14 10:01 AM

Description: Unexpected error

java.lang.ClassCastException: CompactArrayList cannot be cast to java.util.List

at TFC.ClientOverrides.loadRenderers(ClientOverrides.java:36)

at net.minecraft.client.renderer.RenderGlobal.func_72712_a(RenderGlobal.java:415)

at net.minecraft.client.renderer.RenderGlobal.func_72732_a(RenderGlobal.java:308)

at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71353_a(Minecraft.java:2135)

at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71403_a(Minecraft.java:2063)

at net.minecraft.client.multiplayer.NetClientHandler.func_72455_a(NetClientHandler.java:351)

at net.minecraft.network.packet.Packet1Login.func_73279_a(Packet1Login.java:119)

at net.minecraft.network.MemoryConnection.func_74428_b(MemoryConnection.java:89)

at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71407_l(Minecraft.java:1967)

at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71411_J(Minecraft.java:910)

at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_99999_d(Minecraft.java:838)

at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(SourceFile:101)

at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)

at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)

at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)

at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.launch(Launch.java:131)

at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.main(Launch.java:27)

A detailed walkthrough of the error, its code path and all known details is as follows:

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-- Head --

Stacktrace:

at TFC.ClientOverrides.loadRenderers(ClientOverrides.java:36)

at net.minecraft.client.renderer.RenderGlobal.func_72712_a(RenderGlobal.java:415)

at net.minecraft.client.renderer.RenderGlobal.func_72732_a(RenderGlobal.java:308)

at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71353_a(Minecraft.java:2135)

at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71403_a(Minecraft.java:2063)

at net.minecraft.client.multiplayer.NetClientHandler.func_72455_a(NetClientHandler.java:351)

at net.minecraft.network.packet.Packet1Login.func_73279_a(Packet1Login.java:119)

at net.minecraft.network.MemoryConnection.func_74428_b(MemoryConnection.java:89)

-- Affected level --

Details:

Level name: MpServer

All players: 0 total; []

Chunk stats: MultiplayerChunkCache: 0

Level seed: 0

Level generator: ID 00 - DEFAULT, ver 1. Features enabled: false

Level generator options:

Level spawn location: World: (8,64,8), Chunk: (at 8,4,8 in 0,0; contains blocks 0,0,0 to 15,255,15), Region: (0,0; contains chunks 0,0 to 31,31, blocks 0,0,0 to 511,255,511)

Level time: 0 game time, 0 day time

Level dimension: 0

Level storage version: 0x00000 - Unknown?

Level weather: Rain time: 0 (now: false), thunder time: 0 (now: false)

Level game mode: Game mode: survival (ID 0). Hardcore: false. Cheats: false

Forced entities: 0 total; []

Retry entities: 0 total; []

Server brand: ~~ERROR~~ NullPointerException: null

Server type: Integrated singleplayer server

Stacktrace:

at net.minecraft.client.multiplayer.WorldClient.func_72914_a(WorldClient.java:440)

at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71396_d(Minecraft.java:2312)

at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_99999_d(Minecraft.java:863)

at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(SourceFile:101)

at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)

at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)

at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)

at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.launch(Launch.java:131)

at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.main(Launch.java:27)

-- System Details --

Details:

Minecraft Version: 1.6.4

Operating System: Windows 7 (amd64) version 6.1

Java Version: 1.6.0_25, Sun Microsystems Inc.

Java VM Version: Java HotSpot 64-Bit Server VM (mixed mode), Sun Microsystems Inc.

Memory: 199946528 bytes (190 MB) / 555417600 bytes (529 MB) up to 954466304 bytes (910 MB)

JVM Flags: 2 total; -XX:HeapDumpPath=MojangTricksIntelDriversForPerformance_javaw.exe_minecraft.exe.heapdump -Xmx1G

AABB Pool Size: 0 (0 bytes; 0 MB) allocated, 0 (0 bytes; 0 MB) used

Suspicious classes: FML and Forge are installed

IntCache: cache: 0, tcache: 2, allocated: 16, tallocated: 46

FML: MCP v8.11 FML v6.4.49.965 Minecraft Forge 9.11.1.965 Optifine OptiFine_1.6.4_HD_U_C6 9 mods loaded, 9 mods active

mcp{8.09} [Minecraft Coder Pack] (minecraft.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized->Initialized->Post-initialized->Available->Available->Available->Available

FML{6.4.49.965} [Forge Mod Loader] (minecraftforge-9.11.1.965.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized->Initialized->Post-initialized->Available->Available->Available->Available

Forge{9.11.1.965} [Minecraft Forge] (minecraftforge-9.11.1.965.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized->Initialized->Post-initialized->Available->Available->Available->Available

PlayerAPI{1.2} [Player API] (minecraft.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized->Initialized->Post-initialized->Available->Available->Available->Available

tfc_coremod{0.78.11} [TFC[coremod]] (minecraft.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized->Initialized->Post-initialized->Available->Available->Available->Available

terrafirmacraft{0.78.11} [TerraFirmaCraft] (TFC-0.78.11.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized->Initialized->Post-initialized->Available->Available->Available->Available

ExtraFirma{1.1.0} [ExtraFirma] (extrafirma-universal-1.0.4-1.6.4.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized->Initialized->Post-initialized->Available->Available->Available->Available

mod_SmartMoving{14.6} [smart Moving] (Smart Moving Universal for ModLoader or Minecraft Forge or MCPC+.zip) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized->Initialized->Post-initialized->Available->Available->Available->Available

mod_SmartRender{1.1} [smart Render] (Smart Moving Universal for ModLoader or Minecraft Forge or MCPC+.zip) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized->Initialized->Post-initialized->Available->Available->Available->Available

Launched Version: 1.6.4-OptiForge

LWJGL: 2.9.0

OpenGL: ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series GL version 4.2.12217 Compatibility Profile Context 12.104.0.0, ATI Technologies Inc.

Is Modded: Definitely; Client brand changed to 'fml,forge'

Type: Client (map_client.txt)

Resource Pack: Default

Current Language: English (US)

Profiler Position: N/A (disabled)

Vec3 Pool Size: 0 (0 bytes; 0 MB) allocated, 0 (0 bytes; 0 MB) used