Exchanging/suplementing light source mob spawning mechanism for inside/outside?

[Deathbytac0 46]

Dang man, it was a direct reference to you, and right after you too

"baddies" as you put it, probably won't spawn in caves like that. I want to make caves sufficiently dangerous on their own. We're probably going to be reintroducing some auto generated structures, more along the lines of ancient tombs and crypts, with hordes of undead and secret treasures.... (maybe uncraftable tool plans????? who knows lol)

I read it, *insert sig here*

[antimattergizmo 41]

Will these to a point overtake cave generation? I like swiss cheese, just not in Minecraftia form.

Maybe this will be a part of levels (if they aren't severed) that the procedural generation changes added rooms depending on level ( this would mean no xp from mining or passive mobs)

[dunkleosteus 2,425]

No, I think it will be more random than that. I do agree the vanilla cave generation kinda sucks. I think we'll orient it to look more realistic, so that you get that true cave feel, not a bunch of tunnels in the ground. Ravines are rather silly as well, as they are formed by rivers and aren't as commonly found underground as they are on the surface. The crypts and such will probably scattered randomly, but there may be much larger dungeons with more secretive, surface entrances, but this is all speculation atm.

[Scooterdanny 285]

May i have an understanding as to what realistic cave systems would entail? also, i have found plenty of above ground ravines, which are fun to explore.

[antimattergizmo 41]

May i have an understanding as to what realistic cave systems would entail? also, i have found plenty of above ground ravines, which are fun to explore.

Certainly it will be more a nice pepper jack as opposed to swiss. dang I'm hungry....

[Scooterdanny 285]

But.... Pepperjack has no air holes....

[Deathbytac0 46]

No, I think it will be more random than that. I do agree the vanilla cave generation kinda sucks. I think we'll orient it to look more realistic, so that you get that true cave feel, not a bunch of tunnels in the ground. Ravines are rather silly as well, as they are formed by rivers and aren't as commonly found underground as they are on the surface. The crypts and such will probably scattered randomly, but there may be much larger dungeons with more secretive, surface entrances, but this is all speculation atm.

Actually caves aren't too bad. They just need formations and small streams, narrow sections, more vertical cave entrances and entrances at rivers, etc. Since you live in Canada, I'm assuming you haven't been sightseeing in Missouri or Kentucky. We have shitloads of caves. Really they are tunnels, fallen rock, streams, and weird noises. Ravines aren't deep here but if enough water is flowing and it goes along a fault or something to keep it from making a normal tunnel, they happen.

[Ulfengaard 44]

But it has spice... and he who controls the spice... /derail

EDIT: Ninja'd. You're quick, tac0. Real quick.

[antimattergizmo 41]

talking about pockets of fun that spice up your world, or like I said I just want some sweet constipation dairy products

Edit: you can now instate me as an official lurkers to the forums wooo! go no life!

[seraphin 0]

May i have an understanding as to what realistic cave systems would entail? also, i have found plenty of above ground ravines, which are fun to explore.

[Deathbytac0 46]

But it has spice... and he who controls the spice... /derail

EDIT: Ninja'd. You're quick, tac0. Real quick.

That took forever to write lol...

you can now instate me as an official lurkers to the forums wooo! go no life!

Welcome to the club!

http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqqeHiPPYNg&feature=related

Damn you, I have to watch that now!

[Scooterdanny 285]

talking about pockets of fun that spice up your world, or like I said I just want some sweet constipation dairy products

Edit: you can now instate me as an official lurkers to the forums wooo! go no life!

excellent, you must now reach the amount of lurking that i do, over 300 posts in less than a month our numbers shall grow.... Muhahahahaha!

and thank you for the video Seraphin, but i was asking more as to how it was to be implemented in the mod.

Edited 15 Aug 2012 by Scooterdanny

[Deathbytac0 46]

excellent, you must now reach the amount of lurking that i do, over 300 posts in less than a month our numbers shall grow.... Muhahahahaha!

and thank you for the video Seraphin, but i was asking more as to how it was to be implemented in the mod.

I'm gonna beat you by a long shot in that race. I might even pass Eternal in a month.

20.02 posts a day, brah.

[Ulfengaard 44]

Has this thread run its course? We're all agreed that this change is awesomesauce?

[Scooterdanny 285]

Errr, hopefully with relevant posts yeah? I don't want that many posts if they aren't on topic... but good luck lol, (btw, it's not a race)

and i would say so Ulfengaard.

[antimattergizmo 41]

Well knowing my special brand of not humour I will be posting at least 3 times as many non-relevant posts and cohesive ones. It could be something with not playing the actual mod for months in any way shape or form

[Scooterdanny 285]

I strongly encourage playing it, also if you do, join the server i linked on the shoutbox

in fact. everyone should.

[dunkleosteus 2,425]

Actually caves aren't too bad. They just need formations and small streams, narrow sections, more vertical cave entrances and entrances at rivers, etc. Since you live in Canada, I'm assuming you haven't been sightseeing in Missouri or Kentucky. We have shitloads of caves. Really they are tunnels, fallen rock, streams, and weird noises. Ravines aren't deep here but if enough water is flowing and it goes along a fault or something to keep it from making a normal tunnel, they happen.

seeing as I live in Canada, Missouri is a bit out of the way...

[Scooterdanny 285]

Lol, but if the caves are like the one in the video posted, i might just s*** bricks...

[dunkleosteus 2,425]

Lol, but if the caves are like the one in the video posted, i might just s*** bricks...

no, I don't think we can do that. I just meant that if you ever have a chunk error and see through the world, you can see so many caves it looks silly.

[Scooterdanny 285]

i know what you mean *nods head* so you plan on making them much more rare? and/or just reducing their volume?

[dunkleosteus 2,425]

i know what you mean *nods head* so you plan on making them much more rare? and/or just reducing their volume?

I think caves need less of a tunnel feel. This means being wider and less tall and having a more rocky, cliff appearance.

[Deathbytac0 46]

Errr, hopefully with relevant posts yeah? I don't want that many posts if they aren't on topic... but good luck lol, (btw, it's not a race)

and i would say so Ulfengaard.

Mostly relevant to anything going on in the thread, you've seen it. If somebody posts an idea that I have something on, I post, if somebody posts a bit of derail that I have something on, I post. As much fun it is to chat, I do like to be on the main topic. And I'm not racing, I just have a (serious) problem with forum posting, I do it a lot. I find my amount of posts funny, idk why. /please end of derail lol

So Dunk, can you explain what you want to do with caves or is it classified or totally unknown because you are "lazy" as you have said before?

I think caves need less of a tunnel feel. This means being wider and less tall and having a more rocky, cliff appearance.

Dang too fast. So basically you want the cave from the video. (Wow I missed a lot of posts above... smaller?)

[dunkleosteus 2,425]

Mostly relevant to anything going on in the thread, you've seen it. If somebody posts an idea that I have something on, I post, if somebody posts a bit of derail that I have something on, I post. As much fun it is to chat, I do like to be on the main topic. And I'm not racing, I just have a (serious) problem with forum posting, I do it a lot. I find my amount of posts funny, idk why. /please end of derail lol

So Dunk, can you explain what you want to do with caves or is it classified or totally unknown because you are "lazy" as you have said before?

I'm not really sure.

[antimattergizmo 41]

Now that I look back on previous cave experiences, they are generally wide with a flatter ceiling along with walls with micro cave pit on the ramparts and bottom side edge part things with stuff. Huzzah for Organ Cave and Lost World Caverns in the middle of nowhere!