Respawn with low health, same nutrients

[PhineasWynd 41]

Taken from 'Some observations of how people play':

 

I'd like progression not regression. So if it should be hard then lets start from 100 hp.

 

In context, he's talking about killing yourself to get your nutrients and health up. Which, I mean, just don't do that..But it got me thinking: It's not a good thing where you can think, 'dying is an option'. Also, people have talked about penalties for death in other threads.So my suggestion is to respawn with a penalty to your nutrients you had before you died, and a floor of, say, 20% (instead of defaulting up to 80%). Also respawn with low health, i.e. [100/975]. The max health would be unaffected by death.I'm just gonna fudge some numbers here. (-20% penalty, 20% floor)

 

Nutrient         Before:   After:

 

Fruit              80%        60%

Vegetable      30%       20%

Grain             10%       20%

Protein           50%       30%

Dairy              0%         20%

 

the post posted itself before I could name it properly - it's supposed to say 'Respawn with low health, penalty to nutrients'

[Regnilse 21]

Ya I'm cool with that, now that the nutrition thing has been changed to be similar to .78, getting that nutrition lost back wont be game ending.

 

I do think however, that we haven't heard the last of the new nutrition system and it will be back some time, even though Ive talked about how it was broken I really really did like what they were aiming for.

[Hector49er 31]

Considering that you loose all of your skill progress when you die, I believe there is already sufficient motivation to not kill yourself. If people want to loose all of their progress for a little food that is their choice. If you do not want to be an illogical person, and you choose that killing yourself and loosing all of your progress is not worth the little nutrition you gain, that is also your choice. I choose life. Therefore I see no utility in spending time to change something that really makes no difference to a person who does not use it.

 

I do not understand why you would take the time to suggest such a change since it will not cause a change in your gaming experience. Perhaps the temptation is too great? Having full nutrients is actually kind of a nice thing since it could give you a slight chance of retrieving some of the belongings that you lost when you died. If you had severely reduced nutrition it would be very unlikely that any attempt to do so would result in anything more than repeating your demise.

 

Here is my conclusion. I do not agree that this needs to be changed. What business is it of yours to dictate how someone else is allowed to play the game? You have already stated that you do not resort to suicide for such a silly reason, so if this suggestion is implemented it will have zero effect on your gaming experience and would in essence be a waste of time. It also has the potential to alienate some people who may play the game in a different way than you or I. I would rather have the Developers spend their valuable time implementing something new and more important. e.g. Body Temperature.

[PhineasWynd 41]

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Wait you lose skill progress when you die? Like smithing, agriculture, fishing etc.? I just died and didn't lose any skills... Is my game bugged? Can someone confirm whether or not you are supposed to lose your skills if you die? Most of my suggestion is because I'm not experiencing the game in this way, and if it's a bug, I'd like to get it fixed and experience the game how it is meant to be experienced.Also, even if I don't kill myself to get back my nutrition and not lose any skills, (in my case, if not everyone's), dying isn't a big deal to me at the moment. I'm just like 'oh I died.. k'. My whole argument is hinging on the fact that I don't lose anything... If it is indeed a bug, I'll concede that this is less important.

 

I'd prefer to have a penalty to nutrition than to skills anyway.

[DriftinFool 8]

Wait you lose skill progress when you die? Like smithing, agriculture, fishing etc.? I just died and didn't lose any skills... Is my game bugged? Can someone confirm whether or not you are supposed to lose your skills if you die? Most of my suggestion is because I'm not experiencing the game in this way, and if it's a bug, I'd like to get it fixed and experience the game how it is meant to be experienced.Also, even if I don't kill myself to get back my nutrition and not lose any skills, (in my case, if not everyone's), dying isn't a big deal to me at the moment. I'm just like 'oh I died.. k'. My whole argument is hinging on the fact that I don't lose anything... If it is indeed a bug, I'll concede that this is less important.

 

I'd prefer to have a penalty to nutrition than to skills anyway.

I kept my skills when I died. Only lost my levels of xp which do affect your max health I thought.

[lightningtiger88 19]

They do still need to be able to 'live' after they respawn though. Half of the reason they get health back is so they don't get stuck in a loop of 'respawn, die, respawn, die'. How will you handle that? 

[Reyvinn 18]

AFAIK the spawn should be a safe place like house, not just middle of wilderness,so I don't see a problem here.

[Hector49er 31]

Wait you lose skill progress when you die? Like smithing, agriculture, fishing etc.? I just died and didn't lose any skills... Is my game bugged? Can someone confirm whether or not you are supposed to lose your skills if you die? Most of my suggestion is because I'm not experiencing the game in this way, and if it's a bug, I'd like to get it fixed and experience the game how it is meant to be experienced.Also, even if I don't kill myself to get back my nutrition and not lose any skills, (in my case, if not everyone's), dying isn't a big deal to me at the moment. I'm just like 'oh I died.. k'. My whole argument is hinging on the fact that I don't lose anything... If it is indeed a bug, I'll concede that this is less important.

 

I'd prefer to have a penalty to nutrition than to skills anyway.

 

 

It would appear that I am incorrect. Strange, I was under the impression that you lost your skills when you died... Sorry. I could have sworn that it was stated when they were added that skills reset on death. I'll have to keep looking until I find what made me think that.

 

 

-Edit-

 

Turns out I was incorrect about skills resetting on death. There is no place on the forums where it is stated that this should happen. It was my mistake.