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      Hey All, A topic has come up of late in the IRC channel in regards to the general feel of the forums and the community that supports them. Things have progressed further than I would have liked with out this being addressed more publicly because I would much rather have snubbed this out sooner rather than later.. but I have been busy. Here is the general rule I would like people to follow: Wheaton's Law "Don't be a dick." Those of you from the IRC channel know that this is the only rule I ask people in there to follow and we generally have a good and lively time chatting about all manner of things. This is basic rule that just about everyone understands and I am going to expand it to the forums from here moving forward. If you can not help people in a helpful and polite manner then I simply ask you to stop. Now I generally take a back seat to moderating the forums as I like to participate in the suggestions forum fairly heavily at times and would rather do so as a forums user than a moderator. But I am also fairly well known for being the person who constantly puts their foot down and so I am stepping up and doing so on here. If you find yourself unable to respond to a message politely then I ask that you do not respond. This mostly focuses on the increasing level of hostility found within the Suggestion forum as well as the Server forum. I do not care if this is the 30th some odd time you have seen someone make the same suggestion. Or even if the new post on an older topic is one entry above the old one. I expect the members of this forum to respond politely to the user, new or old, and point to the older topic if it applies and even go the extra step to suggest they either add in new information or to summarize the outcome of the previous discussion based upon the new post's entry into it. That is what we are here for, that is why I close most topics instead of deleting them, so that they can be found and referenced down the road. The next topic is the slew of derailment attempts I have seen as of late. If you want to have fun and joke around that is what the off topic forum is for and pretty much anything goes there. I do not expect to read a suggestion thread and have to go through 3 pages of image memes people have shot back and forth. Quite simply this is a waste of my time to read and then have to clean up. Now for the summary. I am going to start taking a more active role, especially in policing the suggestion forum, and handing out warn levels to people whom I see doing this. These will be indiscriminate and applied not to just the first person who derails or is impolite on a topic or response, but to everyone whom follows the lead of that person. As I do not like doing things with out giving you all warning this post shall serve as that warning. If you have a desire to bring this topic up with me then I invite you to do so on the IRC channel. Lets raise the level of quality and grow the community. Let us not descend into the quality often found on the minecraft or league of legend forums. There is simply no need for that here. Be passionate about things, just do not be abusive.
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Darmo

Armadillo

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Armadillo.  Used double-scale texture so I could fit in the bands at a decent scale. Head is a bit higher than natural, but I thought it looked better with the boxy body.  Even at this size, it'll need scale down to 50-60%.  Snout also felt like it needed a nose or something, but they don't really have noses in the normal dog or bear way.  I tried adding a single 1 pixel cube with various alignments, but they kind of seemed unnecessary, idk.   Also, the ears will actually be hollow in the end.  I left them solid for now because otherwise they look weird.  Let me know any thoughts.

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It feels too tall, and have you tried curving the body in any way? I feel like the latter might be overcomplicating it, but at the same time it just doesn't look quite right as a box. Maybe the head could be curved down more? As for the texture, having double the resolution in the middle doesn't look good, and will look super noisy if this is going to be scaled down. And sorry I haven't done anything for TFC2 in a long time, but I have been busy and uninspired.

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Fair enough on the bands.  I got a bit obsessed with wanting to have some variation within bands.  Here's one with normal texture size.  You're probably right about it being a better solution.

 

ArmadilloPic1xScale.png

 

As far as curving the body, you mean like the aardvark, with two angled body pieces?  I considered having smaller boxes fore and aft of the banded section (but not angled), to give it some taper.  But I've rejected such notions in animals with more taper (specifically Konlii's camel), so I couldn't justify it to myself in this case just to give a bit of taper to the body.  But, here's a rough example of how it might look with more body sections:

ArmadilloPic3Box.png

Would something like this alleviate some of your concerns?  It probably does help the head-body relationship more than for most animals, given that it has no neck.  As far as pixel size, it's 9 pixels tall, scaled down to correct size would be about 5 pixels, which is around a foot.  Technically a couple inches over the google-given max, but pretty close.  If you're talking relative to it's own proportions, I don't really see it I guess.  Maybe the 3-box body helps that height impression?  When you mention curving the head down more, you mean like, rotating the whole thing downward? Adding some extra angle to the nose so it's not square to the head?

No prob on the break.  I myself was basically absent for six months, and still don't have the spare time I used to.  Life happens, and it's not like we're on salary or anything.

 

 

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I do like that 2nd body shape better, it makes it so that the head isn't such a big jump from the back and brings out the arch in the back. It also makes the proportions look a lot better to me and makes it look a lot like a box with a head. That said, the curve of the body is most noticeable when looking at it from the side, and in game you will almost always be looking down on them so it probably isn't a huge deal. I definitely like the new bands, but I think they could be increased in contrast to differentiate them from the rest of the body a bit more.

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I really like the second body shape as well, Darmo. It adds more dimension to the project compared to the box of the original. Have you tried moving the head to be higher in the front of the model? Most of the photos that I have seen have the top of their head being flush with the body of the armadillo. The angle could also be altered to make the nose point towards the ground more sharply. 

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