truer to scale

[antimattergizmo 41]

Something that bothered me from the moment I looked at my first images of Minecraft (Indev) It has always bugged me that trees are just not right in size

Yes the sycamore (I think) and jungle trees are huge, along with being closest to IRScale, yet the basic forest is filled with trees you barely need a 45 degree to look fully up close. I myself live in a very large forest in the middle of Appalachia, so I know trees. I will state in advance that it's more of the ratio of trunk to leaves being in favour of leaves i.e. IRScale trees have only slightly more leaves, yet much taller trunk.

This also segways into rivers and their midget width. They are more like creeks you walk chest deep across. I do assume rivers are going to be reworked with the new world gen being worked on, but I wish for you to consider not having equal to vanilla width. Of course natural rivers would be from vanilla size to the Nile and everything in between.

(somehow) TL;DR slightly more to true life scale in terms of tree and water body sizes

[dunkleosteus 2,425]

This is exactly why I was taken on as a programmer originally, I showed some work I had done on trees. Unfortunately, minecraft has limitations that just don't allow for enormous trees. If we made sequoias as big in TFC as they can get in real life, they'd be half as tall as the mountains, and it would look ridiculous. Maybe in a few years if advances in computers allows for enormous worlds where we can have more than a kilometer from the bottom of the world to the top, we'd be able to implement this, but not at the moment.

[Deathbytac0 46]

Trees are fine, small trees are a bit too common though. Also trees should be shaped by their irl shape, most were given the small tree form and called good. Rivers are a bit narrow, but every block is a meter so the rivers really aren't creek size. I would like to see rivers that you can't see to the other side and some that are about 15m. Lakes are a big thing, they are more like small ponds. Things just need to be looked at in feet sometimes to look natural.

[antimattergizmo 41]

Just doubling the size of current trees (or perhaps 1 1/2) would be an improvement in my eyes, I was just saying about the extinctable trees that they themselves alone are what I would like to see in scale, not that every tree be that tall, or modify those trees in any way. Those trees give me the feel of true redwoods, though they are not true to scale with true size. Mostly I just know more than 80% of IRScale trees you can't get to the leaves in any respect, but I would be content with just high enough that only 2/3 of the leaves are reachable. Something more than a mouth full of branches when you walk through a forest.

Edit: Should have wrote something on "lakes" too, though the need more of a buff than rivers or most trees for that matter.

Double edit: removed stupid pole of nothing

[seraphin 0]

This is exactly why I was taken on as a programmer originally, I showed some work I had done on trees. Unfortunately, minecraft has limitations that just don't allow for enormous trees. If we made sequoias as big in TFC as they can get in real life, they'd be half as tall as the mountains, and it would look ridiculous. Maybe in a few years if advances in computers allows for enormous worlds where we can have more than a kilometer from the bottom of the world to the top, we'd be able to implement this, but not at the moment.

Yeah.

I wouldn't mind getting a relatively specific data from someone on the parameters of the hardware

(graphics card, CPU, RAM, etc.) You'd need

to actually run something on that scale and/or with the addition of 1/2 blocks, 1/4 blocks, 1/8 or less.

Intel 15ui4 - 1024 cores 50 THz each

20 PetaBytes RAM DDR 18

etc.

[Deathbytac0 46]

Intel 15ui4 - 1024 cores 50 THz each

20 PetaBytes RAM DDR 18

etc.

Holy shit! Me gusta.

This is the part where Intel better do something like Nvidia's Cuda Cores and add super liquid cooling to their processors just to get half that, nobody cares if it's $10000. As for RAM, they can do that. Sadly motherboards and operating systems are holding us back.

And a kilometer worldheight won't take that much, I bet my mom's laptop could do it if minecraft used more than a single core. Dunk, if you could do what spout is doing (or port to it) it would be achievable.

[seraphin 0]

Holy shit! Me gusta.

This is the part where Intel better do something like Nvidia's Cuda Cores and add super liquid cooling to their processors just to get half that, nobody cares if it's $10000. As for RAM, they can do that. Sadly motherboards and operating systems are holding us back.

And a kilometer worldheight won't take that much, I bet my mom's laptop could do it if minecraft used more than a single core. Dunk, if you could do what spout is doing (or port to it) it would be achievable.

How about more like 1/128 size blocks, with support for round shapes, basic 3d curves, kinda real size world, with more depth underground 4km (Driefontein mine), 10 km up (so You can do Himalaya type mountains) and depth underwater 11 km (Mariana Trench). With the possibility of a 1000 or 1.000.000 players simultaneously.

Or maybe even with modern games level of graphics.

And that with 600 fps on that 600Hz FullHD plasma.

Now how much would that need?

[Deathbytac0 46]

How about more like 1/128 size blocks, with support for round shapes, basic 3d curves, kinda real size world, with more depth underground 4km (Driefontein mine), 10 km up (so You can do Himalaya type mountains) and depth underwater 11 km (Mariana Trench). With the possibility of a 1000 or 1.000.000 players simultaneously.

Or maybe even with modern games level of graphics.

And that with 600 fps on that 600Hz FullHD plasma.

Now how much would that need?

I only have an Asus K50IJ, Best Buy took a shit on it. I'm gonna cry if you keep bringing up amazing computer specs.

[dunkleosteus 2,425]

How about more like 1/128 size blocks, with support for round shapes, basic 3d curves, kinda real size world, with more depth underground 4km (Driefontein mine), 10 km up (so You can do Himalaya type mountains) and depth underwater 11 km (Mariana Trench). With the possibility of a 1000 or 1.000.000 players simultaneously.

Or maybe even with modern games level of graphics.

And that with 600 fps on that 600Hz FullHD plasma.

Now how much would that need?

fuck if I know.

[Just_Another_Guy_:) 1,066]

How about more like 1/128 size blocks, with support for round shapes, basic 3d curves, kinda real size world, with more depth underground 4km (Driefontein mine), 10 km up (so You can do Himalaya type mountains) and depth underwater 11 km (Mariana Trench). With the possibility of a 1000 or 1.000.000 players simultaneously.

Or maybe even with modern games level of graphics.

And that with 600 fps on that 600Hz FullHD plasma.

Now how much would that need?

...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Sequoia

^

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This is what you are looking for. Thousands and thousands of this.

[Deathbytac0 46]

...

http://en.wikipedia....iki/IBM_Sequoia

^

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This is what you are looking for. Thousands and thousands of this.

I want one.

I found this. http://www.webstreet...er_computer.htm Give me 2 months, as I said before, I have a bunch of random ass computer parts in like 7 boxes in my closet. Hehehe, time to rape Eternal's 8-core.

[antimattergizmo 41]

Must it have such an ironic name to this topic (which derailed and should be closed, sure this has been suggested before but I was too much a lazy bastard to look harder than 4 pages with the search word "bigger"

To thinking up another crash and burn idea, huzzah!

[EternalUndeath 1,208]

I want one.

I found this. http://www.webstreet...er_computer.htm Give me 2 months, as I said before, I have a bunch of random ass computer parts in like 7 boxes in my closet. Hehehe, time to rape Eternal's 8-core.

"It is out of scope of this article to discuss how to solve any computational intensive algorithmic problem and how to code those algorithms for cluster architecture."

ahem

[seraphin 0]

"It is out of scope of this article to discuss how to solve any computational intensive algorithmic problem and how to code those algorithms for cluster architecture."

ahem

Yep. Besides. It's not like You could just connect random computers to each other and expect them

to be compatible. When You can't even really change much of anything in the hardware without

buying a new motherboard.

It's just as though the producers don't want You to keep any of the stuff for longer periods of time...

... oh wait.

But I assume it was a joke.

[Deathbytac0 46]

"It is out of scope of this article to discuss how to solve any computational intensive algorithmic problem and how to code those algorithms for cluster architecture."

ahem

Lol, I had only skimmed through it by the time I posted.

Yep. Besides. It's not like You could just connect random computers to each other and expect them

to be compatible. When You can't even really change much of anything in the hardware without

buying a new motherboard.

As many computers are in that box, I bet I can get a pair.

I don't know if it will be productive, but ima do it.

[Scooterdanny 285]

Aaaanywayyys this is way off topic

/thread please

[EternalUndeath 1,208]

Maybe in a few years if advances in computers allows for enormous worlds where we can have more than a kilometer from the bottom of the world to the top, we'd be able to implement this, but not at the moment.

*coughcoughSPOUTcoughcough*

[Deathbytac0 46]

*coughcoughSPOUTcoughcough*

I said that!

[EternalUndeath 1,208]

I said that!

lies

totally edited the post

>_>

[antimattergizmo 41]

Topic deadlining, finish whatever convo you are having then I cut the cord

Edit: I can't delete my own topic? what shiz is that? oh well bye first and prob. last suggestion

[Jasnatdic 85]

Computers already exsist that can run worlds with much more height on vanilla minecraft. mine could easily handle 1024 height with the current chunk system. The problem is there's people trying to run minecraft on P4s who get mad if they loose 2 fps cause they are only running at 6 fps to begin with.

However, also, i would like to see the world gen portion of the mod come to a point of compleatness so i can get about creating a more permanent world on my server. Itll be some time im sure until that happens, but hey, i can hope.

[Deathbytac0 46]

Topic deadlining, finish whatever convo you are having then I cut the cord

Edit: I can't delete my own topic? what shiz is that? oh well bye first and prob. last suggestion

You may think this is failing, it's not. This forum is 1% talk about your suggestion, 74% derail, and 25% get shit done.

[Scooterdanny 285]

Close the thread please...

[antimattergizmo 41]

He's dead Jim

[enenra 5]

This is exactly why I was taken on as a programmer originally, I showed some work I had done on trees. Unfortunately, minecraft has limitations that just don't allow for enormous trees. If we made sequoias as big in TFC as they can get in real life, they'd be half as tall as the mountains, and it would look ridiculous. Maybe in a few years if advances in computers allows for enormous worlds where we can have more than a kilometer from the bottom of the world to the top, we'd be able to implement this, but not at the moment.

Have you had a look at the spout project? (not spoutcraft) Complete rewrite of the game. One of the features is infinite world height. More here: http://forums.spout....nilla-are.2332/

Spout might generally be a better platform to implement TFC IMHO.

EDIT: Turns out spout has already been mentioned...