Monster spawns

[Srgnoodles 1,030]

alright im a bit confused as to where this topic went, can someone help me out?

[Jed1314 420]

alright im a bit confused as to where this topic went, can someone help me out?

Bioxx and Dunk are planning on making several changes to combat and the health system which will break compatibility with the "Player API" mod. As this is the case, "Smart Moving" will no longer be usable by any TFC players.

[Srgnoodles 1,030]

Bioxx and Dunk are planning on making several changes to combat and the health system which will break compatibility with the "Player API" mod. As this is the case, "Smart Moving" will no longer be usable by any TFC players.

well as long as it fixes the crappy combat in minsraft

[Jed1314 420]

well as long as it fixes the crappy combat in minsraft

That's exactly what I said .. I don't care what mods they break .. As long as they fix the game

[Srgnoodles 1,030]

That's exactly what I said .. I don't care what mods they break .. As long as they fix the game

oh man if only mojang would listen to us!

[Jed1314 420]

oh man if only mojang would listen to us!

Yeah .. Keep in mind though that we are a minority of players who feel the game isn't hard enough in the ways we do. TFC is a godsend for people like us, but most MC players are just looking for an easy ride .. Personally, I think Mojang should just accept that the reason their game is big is due to the awesome mods available, and actually give the mod creators something which has enough flexibility to basically make their own games

The idea of an engine which the players buy is quite interesting actually Mojang could develop MC to lay down the groundwork for mod devs, then players would buy this base engine and download mods for it which they would play :L

It'd be pretty cool I think :L

[EternalUndeath 1,208]

uh oh.

But- but- Realcraft! T_T

It's already bad enough I have to wait for GLSL and Dynamic Lights compatibility, don't go the opposite direction!

[Srgnoodles 1,030]

stuff

but what im trying to say is that, instead of adding a bunch of useless or single use shit, they should focus on either fixing, improving or adding new features to the already existing stuff. damn i wish notch were still working on minsraft

CURSE YOU JEB AND YOUR AMZING HAIR!!!

[Scooterdanny 285]

Ah fudgecookies.... First you take away my multicore rendendering from optifine, now you take Smart move... (Grumpy sigh) Is there a way to truncate parts of it (optifine), so that certain FPS enhancing features would still be compatible? i have Six cores, and i tired of only being able to really use One to render my world.

[dunkleosteus 2,425]

Ah fudgecookies.... First you take away my multicore rendendering from optifine, now you take Smart move... (Grumpy sigh) Is there a way to truncate parts of it (optifine), so that certain FPS enhancing features would still be compatible? i have Six cores, and i tired of only being able to really use One to render my world.

you'd have to talk to the maker of optifine for that.

[Jed1314 420]

Ah fudgecookies.... First you take away my multicore rendendering from optifine, now you take Smart move... (Grumpy sigh) Is there a way to truncate parts of it (optifine), so that certain FPS enhancing features would still be compatible? i have Six cores, and i tired of only being able to really use One to render my world.

I feel your pain bro .. I'm running an AMD phenom 2 x6 1100T .. A whole bunch of perfectly good cores put to waste

As I said though .. I had already consigned myself to their loss

but what im trying to say is that, instead of adding a bunch of useless or single use shit, they should focus on either fixing, improving or adding new features to the already existing stuff. damn i wish notch were still working on minsraft

CURSE YOU JEB AND YOUR AMZING HAIR!!!

I gave up on vanilla a long time ago .. I've been playing since alpha so I've watched it's steady descent

All I want from mojang now is for them to let the modders do their job and make an actually good game :L

[Srgnoodles 1,030]

Ah fudgecookies.... First you take away my multicore rendendering from optifine, now you take Smart move... (Grumpy sigh) Is there a way to truncate parts of it (optifine), so that certain FPS enhancing features would still be compatible? i have Six cores, and i tired of only being able to really use One to render my world.

eh i have the opposite problem here i can barely play minsraft without optifine!

[Just_Another_Guy_:) 1,066]

With all the mods i use, it will be VERY laggy for me after Optifine becomes incompatible. Unless i only keep one world, use the minumun settings and only have two mods as a max : -which means goodbye redpower, which means goodbye to easily and efficiently made redstone devices -. And it will still be laggy after all that... :.

EDIT: not saying i don't want the mod to advance in the best way possible. Just complaining :

[Scooterdanny 285]

Mhhh, could it be an option class file(s) so that if we wanted to retain optifine, we just don't include the blinding snowstorm class? i would like to see those, but optifine increases my fps by like 4 times.

[Jasnatdic 85]

With the strong possibility of loosing player api compatability what are the odds of the ability to crawl or climb similar to smart moving being added to tfc?

Its kinda cool being able to crawl around through little holes connecting cave systems and such.

[dunkleosteus 2,425]

With the strong possibility of loosing player api compatability what are the odds of the ability to crawl or climb similar to smart moving being added to tfc?

Its kinda cool being able to crawl around through little holes connecting cave systems and such.

If we recreated smart moving, they might get annoyed at us :/

[Jasnatdic 85]

If we recreated smart moving, they might get annoyed at us :/

Hmm, i suppose so. Maybe there's hope of them writing a compatibility into it. I guess we will just have to see how things turn out further down the road.

[dunkleosteus 2,425]

Hmm, i suppose so. Maybe there's hope of them writing a compatibility into it. I guess we will just have to see how things turn out further down the road.

If they wrote compatibility into it, it would break their compatibility with other mods. We're breaking compatibility with all other player changing mods, so they probably won't

[Jed1314 420]

If we recreated smart moving, they might get annoyed at us :/

This may sound slightly condescending, but have you ever actually asked ?

Think about it this way: If smart moving is now incompatible with TFC, you aren't affecting their popularity, as any TFC users wouldn't be able to install it anyway. If people want just SM, they still have to download the official one as the TFC version would be tied to this mod.

Any objection they had would be (at least on a logical level) unreasonable, as it does absolutely no harm to their mod. They might want to retain the code for personal reasons, but I can't see the harm in asking in a diplomatic and cautious manner.

I think that if you explained to them that your user base are big fans of the mod but you are being forced to break compatibility, they would understand and allow you to patch it.

Just a thought

[dunkleosteus 2,425]

This may sound slightly condescending, but have you ever actually asked ?

Think about it this way: If smart moving is now incompatible with TFC, you aren't affecting their popularity, as any TFC users wouldn't be able to install it anyway. If people want just SM, they still have to download the official one as the TFC version would be tied to this mod.

Any objection they had would be (at least on a logical level) unreasonable, as it does absolutely no harm to their mod. They might want to retain the code for personal reasons, but I can't see the harm in asking in a diplomatic and cautious manner.

I think that if you explained to them that your user base are big fans of the mod but you are being forced to break compatibility, they would understand and allow you to patch it.

Just a thought

I mean they might, but it would have to entirely redone . They're code relies heavilly on PlayerAPI, and without it, everything they programmed would have to be recoded to be compatible. They most likely wouldn't want to spend the time reworking it (and with how often TFC is updated, no one would want to) and we have no where near the staff or time to do it ourselves. (Plus, Bioxx doesn't want anyone else touching the code but him and me)

[Jed1314 420]

I mean they might, but it would have to entirely redone . They're code relies heavilly on PlayerAPI, and without it, everything they programmed would have to be recoded to be compatible. They most likely wouldn't want to spend the time reworking it (and with how often TFC is updated, no one would want to) and we have no where near the staff or time to do it ourselves. (Plus, Bioxx doesn't want anyone else touching the code but him and me)

I understand .. Perhaps a dream for a more stable time then

[abandoned mines 119]

with the new "Wither" boss being added soon

(many are saying it will spawn in the empty dirt chambers within abandoned mines) will we be seeing it have changess as well ?

P.S

when (if ever) will we be seeing the return of underground mine shafts / most spawning structures?

i ve always wanted to see abandoned mines have an enterance at the surface, perhaps as a collapsed tunnel in the side of a mountain ?

this could also be the exit point for any bad mobs that appear on the surface.

[Scooterdanny 285]

Well, dunk plans on adding things like crypts. and similar structures sometime in the future.

[abandoned mines 119]

Well, dunk plans on adding things like crypts. and similar structures sometime in the future.

that could be cool

[dunkleosteus 2,425]

that could be cool

will be cool*