Making armor

[Vlad 73]

Is it true that temperature for working armor and welding is higher then regular working?

Also why you can't catch sheets and plates into molds when they liquid like regular ingots? A bug? Since the temperatures for working armor are higher it's easy to miss..

[ruhl4 24]

Oh yes, close to melting point. Lots of fun for higher tier metals.

[Vlad 73]

What about catching liquid sheets? You can't do it on purpose, or It's a bug?

[Vlad 73]

Also does it worth making armor? Wasted 24 bismuth ingots on an armor and it didn't hold much more then leather armor. I guess no but why? Does later armor is better?

[renadi 258]

Bismuth isn't supposed to be much better than leather, but moving further up there's supposed to be a bigger difference.

[dunkleosteus 2,425]

Bismuth isn't supposed to be much better than leather, but moving further up there's supposed to be a bigger difference.

Bismuth is the shittest.

[Just_Another_Guy_:) 1,066]

Bismuth is the shittest.

It's only purpose is bismuth bronze for me... and the only bismuth bronze's purpose is a fancy anvil i won't be using for ever :

[dunkleosteus 2,425]

It's only purpose is bismuth bronze for me... and the only bismuth bronze's purpose is a fancy anvil i won't be using for ever :

Bismuth Bronze is the shittest of the bronzes.

[Just_Another_Guy_:) 1,066]

Bismuth Bronze is the shittest of the bronzes.

Still serves quite well as an anvil, at least in TFC and it's more cost-efficient than normal bronze (less copper used)

Unless you are gonna implement some kind of anvil durability and give bismuth bronze the third lowest one (after copper and stone), in which case... f+ck .-.

[dunkleosteus 2,425]

Still serves quite well as an anvil, at least in TFC and it's more cost-efficient than normal bronze (less copper used)

Unless you are gonna implement some kind of anvil durability and give bismuth bronze the third lowest one (after copper and stone), in which case... f+ck .-.

ok, but remember for tools and armour, bronze is about 33% faster for harvesting blocks/protecting you and has more durability than bismuth bronze

[EstebanLB 183]

Is it true that temperature for working armor and welding is higher then regular working?

Also why you can't catch sheets and plates into molds when they liquid like regular ingots? A bug? Since the temperatures for working armor are higher it's easy to miss..

Sheets, double sheets, double ingots and unfinished armor pieces do melt back into unshaped metal bars in the corresponding number, you need enough empty molds in the forge.

[ejzzje 18]

Dunk, bronze is the fastest of all the tier 2 metals, but bismuth bronze isn't the shittiest, it's actually second place. Bismuth bronze has more durability than black bronze, which has more durability than rose gold.

So for tools that need the mining speed bronze is the best choice (pick, axe, shovel, any weapon), while you can use bis bronze to conserve some copper on the others (chisels, hammers, scythes, pro-picks).

[LordOfWolves 514]

Dunk, bronze is the fastest of all the tier 2 metals, but bismuth bronze isn't the shittiest,

It's made with Bismuth. This is enough to call it the shittiest.

[Just_Another_Guy_:) 1,066]

Dunk, bronze is the fastest of all the tier 2 metals, but bismuth bronze isn't the shittiest, it's actually second place. Bismuth bronze has more durability than black bronze, which has more durability than rose gold.

So for tools that need the mining speed bronze is the best choice (pick, axe, shovel, any weapon), while you can use bis bronze to conserve some copper on the others (chisels, hammers, scythes, pro-picks).

... I'm inclined to think the developer has more reasons to know which metals are better than you... no offense though :

[ejzzje 18]

Source is on github, Bioxx doesn't care if you poke around in it as long as you don't reveal the actual numbers so I'll do what dunk does and use percentages for all the tier 2 metals using copper as a base for the increases.

Rose Gold has a 26.8% durability increase over copper and the mining speed is increased by 10%

Black Bronze is a 29.2% durability increase and the mining speed is still 10% better than copper.

Bismuth Bronze is 41.4% more durability and the mining speed increase is 15%, thus it's better than rose gold and black bronze within tier 2.

Bronze is 46.3% added durability and the mining speed is 50% better than copper.

As I stated in my earlier post bronze is by far the best for anything that needs the speed or damage such as a pick, axe, shovel, and weapons. Bismuth bronze is able to be used where copper can be conserved such as anvils, pro picks,

chisels, hammers and anything else you don't need speed for.

Bismuth bronze still has the tin content so compared to rose gold (1 copper 3 gold) or black bronze (2 copper 1 gold 1 silver) it is logical to assume that bismuth bronze would be the better of those three.

P.S. J_A_G, normally your assumption would be right but in this case I think dunk is just forgetting that rose gold and black bronze even exist.

[Just_Another_Guy_:) 1,066]

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Okay, i will trust you then... Sorry 'bout that, but as you said, normally it would be right .-.

It's a shame rose gold is the worse... Rose gold armor looks kind of cool : as bismuth bronze armor...

[Vlad 73]

Sheets, double sheets, double ingots and unfinished armor pieces do melt back into unshaped metal bars in the corresponding number, you need enough empty molds in the forge.

I'm surprised it worked, probably forgot about the molds last time. thanks.

[Just_Another_Guy_:) 1,066]

I'm surprised it worked, probably forgot about the molds last time. thanks.

Not trying to offend you, but... lol

*Melts metallic stuff and forgets about the molds*

*Gets surprised when he gets no metal filled molds*

Now, that's derpy :_.

[Vlad 73]

Not trying to offend you, but... lol

*Melts metallic stuff and forgets about the molds*

*Gets surprised when he gets no metal filled molds*

Now, that's derpy :_.

No it's not.

I always putting mold in, but probably I used them without noticing and same as before..

I wasted 3 stacks of ingots so no wonder that at some point I didn't refilled the molds.

[scioham 14]

I wouldn't bother making armor at all until it gets buffed.

I started wearing those pieces of armor at the same time. Bronze is not much more durable than leather. Additionally there is no noticeable damage reduction when wearing all of this armor. I'm pretty sure armor hasn't been adjusted at all for the new combat values.

[Just_Another_Guy_:) 1,066]

I wouldn't bother making armor at all until it gets buffed.

I started wearing those pieces of armor at the same time. Bronze is not much more durable than leather. Additionally there is no noticeable damage reduction when wearing all of this armor. I'm pretty sure armor hasn't been adjusted at all for the new combat values.

Form the changelog:

Notes

• Much to my delight, as a byproduct of the new health system and the amount of damage that mobs are now capable of doing, armor has started working as it was originally intended. However it also tends to wear out faster than you might be used to. Taking as little damage as possible is now preferable to standing there tanking damage as in previous versions.

[AlmightySquid 72]

Form the changelog:

I still don't like that :/

To spend hours collecting enough ore for all that armor, and then making it, just to lose it in a few hits? Not very believeable to me.. Hope it gets tweaked to something like it was before the health/damage updates.

[Just_Another_Guy_:) 1,066]

I still don't like that :/

To spend hours collecting enough ore for all that armor, and then making it, just to lose it in a few hits? Not very believeable to me.. Hope it gets tweaked to something like it was before the health/damage updates.

From what i know, swords still reduce damage deatl in a half, so a weapon is apparently better at defending that the armor designed to defend you :

The best defence is a good attack, i guess...

[scioham 14]

Form the changelog:

I am aware of the changelog, but I don't feel the extremely low durability and protection value makes for good gameplay. There's simply no point in making armor if it can neither take a beating nor protect you.

[Just_Another_Guy_:) 1,066]

They will fix it eventually, don't worry 'bout it, for now take the advise i did in my previous post and make yourself a sword, a lot less metal for a lot more defense

EDIT: or a mace, or a knife, whatever you prefer :3

EDIT2: Oh, yeah, and ALWAYS carry a lot of javelins when not in a protected zone, at least half the hot bar.