Snow In Winter

[mayaknife 82]

hrm.

I don't think Quebec would make it very far from an economical standpoint... You guys spend much more money than you generate, and without the rest of the country, you'd be broke pretty quick.

You could make the same argument about Ontario at the moment. Since 2009 Ontario has been a net receiver of federal equalization payments.

Quebec has not always been a net receiver. In general Quebec is more business friendly than the rest of the country (Alberta excepted) and its economy tends to be strong when there's little talk of separatism. Of course the minute the Quebec economy gets strong the separatists start pushing for independence, business flees and the economy tanks. C'est la vie.

I think the biggest problem facing an independent Quebec would be increased pressure on the very culture that they hope separation would preserve. For example, a lot of foreign firms, particularly American, are willing to put up with the hassle and expense of special dual-language labeling in order to gain access to a market of 33 million people. Far fewer would do so for a market of just 8 million.

Alberta on the other hand... They could make threats. They're the richest province in the country

Outside of petrochemicals, Alberta's industry is small and weak, though that is changing. In these days of cheap and easy trade that doesn't have to be a deal killer, but the province's massive reliance on petrochemicals means that if the bottom ever drops out of the market (e.g. cheap power from fusion) then their entire economy would be hosed.

[dunkleosteus 2,425]

You could make the same argument about Ontario at the moment. Since 2009 Ontario has been a net receiver of federal equalization payments.

Quebec has not always been a net receiver. In general Quebec is more business friendly than the rest of the country (Alberta excepted) and its economy tends to be strong when there's little talk of separatism. Of course the minute the Quebec economy gets strong the separatists start pushing for independence, business flees and the economy tanks. C'est la vie.

I think the biggest problem facing an independent Quebec would be increased pressure on the very culture that they hope separation would preserve. For example, a lot of foreign firms, particularly American, are willing to put up with the hassle and expense of special dual-language labeling in order to gain access to a market of 33 million people. Far fewer would do so for a market of just 8 million.

Outside of petrochemicals, Alberta's industry is small and weak, though that is changing. In these days of cheap and easy trade that doesn't have to be a deal killer, but the province's massive reliance on petrochemicals means that if the bottom ever drops out of the market (e.g. cheap power from fusion) then their entire economy would be hosed.

For the time, yes, Alberta would be able to support itself. Post-separation Alberta would be in quite a bit of trouble though. Alberta already imports workers from across the country to support it's economy, and separation would probably drastically reduce the numbers of people that come in to work there.

[Gwtheyrn 70]

I think the biggest problem facing an independent Quebec would be increased pressure on the very culture that they hope separation would preserve. For example, a lot of foreign firms, particularly American, are willing to put up with the hassle and expense of special dual-language labeling in order to gain access to a market of 33 million people. Far fewer would do so for a market of just 8 million.

All the labels are already in multiple languages. I can't buy anything at the store hardly which doesn't have instructions, etc. in Spanish and French in addition to English.

[pheonix14 0]

You guys spend much more money than you generate, and without the rest of the country, you'd be broke pretty quick.

That sounds like the entirety of the US, and look how well we're doing!

[aliceingame 114]

I would say that there is two aspects to the idea of Quebec separation, economic and cultural. Even at some extends, political too.

Some people say that our economy is not strong enough to support an independent country. Some people, mostly outside of Quebec say that Quebec is just sucking other provinces's money, like manaknife said. Quebec's north is full of ore that we can exploit to make money, but the government is almost ready to give it for free, then there is no way we can make money out of it.

Of course, the cultural aspect is the one I think is the most important. Quebec's culture will not die if we stay a part of Canada, but how can we protect our ideology when we have a government that take decisions that we do not agree.

For example, Harper's government took Canada out of Kyoto protocol, Quebec asked to stay in. They removed the gun registry, Quebec want to keep the information to have it's own provincial registry. How can we defend out ideology inside of a country who push forward and defend completely different ideas. As far as I know, Alberta is far more conservative. In Quebec, things like abortion and gay marriage are not even a topic we discuss, as most people say it's ok. On the other and, more conservative part of Canada want to fight against it and it's a big subject in their community.

[mayaknife 82]

Some people, mostly outside of Quebec say that Quebec is just sucking other provinces's money, like manaknife said.

I didn't say that. I noted that Quebec's economy has had its ups and downs. Currently it's a bit down, but then so is Ontario and most of the rest of the country/world.

Harper's government took Canada out of Kyoto protocol, Quebec asked to stay in. They removed the gun registry, Quebec want to keep the information to have it's own provincial registry. How can we defend out ideology inside of a country who push forward and defend completely different ideas. As far as I know, Alberta is far more conservative. In Quebec, things like abortion and gay marriage are not even a topic we discuss, as most people say it's ok.

Which is why, if I was forced to choose between Quebec and Alberta I'd keep Quebec and lose Alberta. However I'd really rather we all stayed together since I think we have a cool country here, from the tree-huggers on the west coast to those folks with the funny accents on that rock in the middle of the Atlantic. That's why I want to get rid of Harper. He looks at Canada and sees something awful, something which needs to be made to look more like the US. If I'd wanted to live in the US I would have moved there. I'd prefer it if Harper moved there and gave the rest of us our country back.

(Note to any Americans reading this: I'm not a USA-basher, I just happen to like my own country better. As I'm sure most of you like yours better.)

[SgtVennamo 12]

To get back to the topic of snow in Terrafirmacraft , Is there any way to stop the snow from destroying torches and ladders etc.? It's getting pretty annoying to replace few stacks of torches and some ladders during and after every winter.

[dunkleosteus 2,425]

To get back to the topic of snow in Terrafirmacraft , Is there any way to stop the snow from destroying torches and ladders etc.? It's getting pretty annoying to replace few stacks of torches and some ladders during and after every winter.

winters are harsh. You need to take proper precautions

[SgtVennamo 12]

And as an idea I like it, especially in the wilderness. But pretty much the only options to keep a settlement lit would be make lamp posts everywhere (looks ugly and clunky), make a roof for a fort (again, would look ridiculous) or use less-than-full pieces for flooring, which would result in ugly floating snow. Which means there will be monsters spawning in completely closed environment, which leads to useless busywork.

But that being said, it's just a minor annoyance, which doesn't come even close to overshadow the awesomeness of the mod.

[callisto8413 19]

I have found floating snow on the server we play on already. Weird.