Sticks Vs Handles/Rods

[Srgnoodles 1,030]

does anyone else find it a little odd that, even though you are making red iron tools, you still use some random stick straight from a tree to mash your tool head onto?

it makes sence for stone tools but shouldn't you use something a little more refined for your metal tools? maybe you could make handles from wood and hide for grips or something like that to attack your tools to. also, when you smith a sword, you just make the blade, you also should need to craft the crossguard and handle for it because you dont just stick a sword blade onto a stick and it's k

[EternalUndeath 1,208]

Stick + leather = handle?

...I'm ok with this. +1

[EstebanLB 183]

Stick + leather = handle?

...I'm ok with this. +1

Also, with knife. More uses for the knife, yeay!!!

[EternalUndeath 1,208]

Also, with knife. More uses for the knife, yeay!!!

Better yet, leather + knife = 4 leather strips

2 leather strips on either side of a stick = handle

[Enzer 60]

Better yet, leather + knife = 4 leather strips

2 leather strips on either side of a stick = handle

I really actually like this idea, would give leather more use than leather armor (which is mainly end up using it for) and bellows. Sure it doesn't add much more to the game outside of adding another step in crafting, but it does give a more believable crafting recipe than just glueing a blade to a stick. I am also sure that leath strips could be used in other recipies for objects added down the road to TFC.

[KalSirian 0]

Instead of a stick, make that a plank. How about this : plank+knife = handle (useable on lower tier metal tools/weapons) and handle + leather = sturdy handle (for high tier metal tools/weapons, maybe from steel upwards). Same with bone : bone + knife = bone handle, and bone handle + leather = sturdy bone handle.

[mrpwase 66]

I don't think this would add much to the game beyond busywork. Maybe if it was added it could give a durability boost to the tool, if it's possible for durability to go over 100.

[kotoroshinoto 97]

somtimes busywork isnt bad, just using raw sticks is kind of silly.

[Lumireaver 101]

Better yet, leather + knife = 4 leather strips

2 leather strips on either side of a stick = handle

This, but shapeless. Less crafting table craftings, please. :U

[bsb23 303]

I wouldn't mind this however I agree with mrpwase it wouldn't add a huge amount to the game besides a fixing a problem few people noticed and another use for leather, I think it would need a little more importance than that some kind of boost would be ideal. The fact that sticks were used confused me for a different reason how did we get it to stay?

[mrpwase 66]

somtimes busywork isnt bad, just using raw sticks is kind of silly.

Sometimes busywork isn't bad? Busywork is always bad. I know it's a bit rich complaining about this while playing TFC, but busywork is the opposite of fun and does not belong in video games.

Using prepared handles instead of sticks should give a bonus to the tool of some kind, or maybe should be required for higher tier tools. Realism doesn't enter into it, tools are a very basic and important part of gameplay, and making it more tedious to get them isn't fun.

[Biodigious 211]

..., if it's possible for durability to go over 100.

Lol, look who doesn't know how durability works. A tier 0 pickaxe already has several hundred uses.

[Lumireaver 101]

Ideally, I'd like to see sticks and stones used for stone tools.

Carved handles and metals would be used for metal tools.

Leather-bound handles and alloys would be used for...alloy tools.

Also leather strips, or fibres of some kind ought be required to fasten tool heads.

[DaGoblin 3]

Ideally, I'd like to see sticks and stones used for stone tools.

Carved handles and metals would be used for metal tools.

Leather-bound handles and alloys would be used for...alloy tools.

Also leather strips, or fibres of some kind ought be required to fasten tool heads.

I'd definitely be for this, particularly if we can carve some sort of worked wood into said handles. I think the idea of having worked handles become part of the durability (as a bonus) would be excellent as well - It fits with the trend in this mod of careful planning giving better results.

Perhaps it can also dovetail into the apparent (to me anyway) addition of carpentry we're going to see in the near future? I'd not be surprised at all to see a woodworking bench or somesuch as part of the construction and carpentry changes. Creating higher quality handles and hafts at one of those would be a fitting upgrade to sticks and stones.

[kotoroshinoto 97]

or if you enchant/gemify the handle it would lend some sort of benefit to the tool. (maybe you should be able to enchant the tool heads ahead of time as well)

[mrpwase 66]

Lol, look who doesn't know how durability works. A tier 0 pickaxe already has several hundred uses.

Oh come on, you know what I meant.

[EternalUndeath 1,208]

This, but shapeless. Less crafting table craftings, please. :U

Oh, so you can properly wrap a sword handle without a good workspace, can you? If you post pics of yourself sitting in a field and placing a proper leather crossweave on a weapon handle, I will not only concede your point but I'll post my own pics of me eating my goddamned fedora

[Srgnoodles 1,030]

well to all you who say that having better handles for tools should just give a durability bonus, i say myeh to that. it should be REQUIRED to make better handles for tools because it just doesnt make sense otherwise

[bsb23 303]

How does that not make sense? Why can't you use a normal handle with a fancy pick, I don't remember reading any rule that the quality of part of an item must be equal to the quality of the rest. It would make sense if you couldn't just put a handle on a red steel pick head.

[Srgnoodles 1,030]

How does that not make sense? Why can't you use a normal handle with a fancy pick, I don't remember reading any rule that the quality of part of an item must be equal to the quality of the rest. It would make sense if you couldn't just put a handle on a red steel pick head.

i meant better handles than sticks, i dont want there to be seven and a half types of handles, i just want handles to replace sticks in crafting

[EternalUndeath 1,208]

How does that not make sense? Why can't you use a normal handle with a fancy pick, I don't remember reading any rule that the quality of part of an item must be equal to the quality of the rest. It would make sense if you couldn't just put a handle on a red steel pick head.

That's just it though. Currently you aren't putting on a 'regular' handle, you're taking a tool head and jamming in a bit of branch you yanked out of a tree. Real tools aren't made in this manner - they have handles

[Sasqaucth 45]

Instead of a stick, make that a plank. How about this : plank+knife = handle (useable on lower tier metal tools/weapons) and handle + leather = sturdy handle (for high tier metal tools/weapons, maybe from steel upwards). Same with bone : bone + knife = bone handle, and bone handle + leather = sturdy bone handle.

How you gonna get a knife if you need it to craft a handle?

[EternalUndeath 1,208]

How you gonna get a knife if you need it to craft a handle?

Stone knives didn't have handles, and ideally won't in TFC either. Only metal ones do/would.

[Sasqaucth 45]

Hypothetical updates: The backbone of this forum...

[Lumireaver 101]

Oh, so you can properly wrap a sword handle without a good workspace, can you? If you post pics of yourself sitting in a field and placing a proper leather crossweave on a weapon handle, I will not only concede your point but I'll post my own pics of me eating my goddamned fedora

I can totally imagine myself sitting criss-cross in a beautiful grassy field working on my lap definitely not nervous that I'll be eaten by a bear at a moments notice. I just don't see it as something that requires a workstation, but I could be wrong.