Caves?

[Arthur_Dent 36]

If you want to learn dwarf fortress I recommend a book called "getting started with dwarf fortress". You can google it and find a free download pretty easily. I would also advise you download the "lazy newb pack" because it comes with a texture pack and a couple of utilities

i got the Lazy Newb Pack, a Let's Play Tut told me. it makes things easier, certianly

[RogueHydra 32]

I refused to start DF with a texture pack. I was determined to learn it with the tiles as-is. It took me a few days but I finally got it down (though I haven't played in a few months so I don't know if I remember enough).

[Jed1314 420]

I refused to start DF with a texture pack. I was determined to learn it with the tiles as-is. It took me a few days but I finally got it down (though I haven't played in a few months so I don't know if I remember enough).

There's a line for me regarding graphics, and ascII is it I think. I didn't use a TP because it was too hard, I use it because the vanilla game is painfully ugly (to me) otherwise. It actually gave me headaches looking at all those wee symbols :S

[RogueHydra 32]

I actually use a texture set that just takes the default tiles and makes em bigger (and square) and run the game full screen.

[Arthur_Dent 36]

Oddly appropriate, that the Off Topic discussion on the Caves? thread is about Dwarves living in Caves...

[Srgnoodles 1,030]

so yeah back on topic... caves

so yeah the current cave spawn in vanilla is rather silly, there arent caves that reach from the surface to the core of the earth, most caves only form higher up and are usually shallow, also, te larger ones are usually wet because they were carved (out of limestone usually) by water running or dripping through them for millenia.

so make caves almost never spawn in hard rocks like granite and spawn a little more commonly in softer stuff like limestone

[dunkleosteus 2,425]

so yeah back on topic... caves

so yeah the current cave spawn in vanilla is rather silly, there arent caves that reach from the surface to the core of the earth, most caves only form higher up and are usually shallow, also, te larger ones are usually wet because they were carved (out of limestone usually) by water running or dripping through them for millenia.

so make caves almost never spawn in hard rocks like granite and spawn a little more commonly in softer stuff like limestone

There are caves that spawn in the harder rocks, just not the ones formed by water. For example, lava tubes run all over hawaii's big island. (which I think is made of basalt? idk)

[sneakybeaver 0]

-.-'' i chose sneakybeaver username because beavers are animals i love and sneaky is because when i was playing with friends i was always sneaking to troll them and stuff so they called me sneakybeaver so that is why my username is sneakybeaver so STFu

[Arthur_Dent 36]

-.-'' i chose sneakybeaver username because beavers are animals i love and sneaky is because when i was playing with friends i was always sneaking to troll them and stuff so they called me sneakybeaver so that is why my username is sneakybeaver so STFu

We are not making fun of you, man. We just have our minds in the gutter, so stuff like this happens. I apologize for my part in this, sorry, man.

[Jed1314 420]

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Indeed mate Needn't worry about a bit of friendly joking We aren't mocking you, we just found the name quite funny

You'll find that most people on here are absolutely lovely and wouldn't do anything to offend you intentionally

[EternalUndeath 1,208]

We are not making fun of you, man. We just have our minds in the gutter, so stuff like this happens. I apologize for my part in this, sorry, man.

Don't apologize, it was funny.

If he wants to be uptight and unfriendly, that's his business

Indeed mate Needn't worry about a bit of friendly joking We aren't mocking you, we just found the name quite funny

You'll find that most people on here are absolutely lovely and wouldn't do anything to offend you intentionally

Except me.

[Jed1314 420]

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Well yes, you are the servers token asshole though. We need you

[EternalUndeath 1,208]

Well yes, you are the servers token asshole though. We need you

Oi!

I am not token... *hrmph*

[Arthur_Dent 36]

Oi!

I am not token... *hrmph*

Token, Ahahahahahaha!

[Jed1314 420]

Oi!

I am not token... *hrmph*

Haha :P

You're right, but pet asshole just didn't do you justice and arch asshole sounds like your head of some kind of guild specializing in insults and put downs

[sneakybeaver 0]

i'm not trying to be unfriendly. BTW what mods should i use with TFC? especialy for storage other than backpacks because i have those

[Just_Another_Guy_:) 1,066]

If you're looking for storage mods, i think the iron chests mod works with TFC... Also, Smart moving is just the perfect combination with the game.

[EternalUndeath 1,208]

i'm not trying to be unfriendly. BTW what mods should i use with TFC? especialy for storage other than backpacks because i have those

Well in the interim I'd recommend ender storage I suppose, idk if it's compatible...

But soon in-world storage will be prevalent in TFC, and solving your storage woes by your own merit (as opposed to 'cheating' with other mods) will be a deeply ingrained part of the game.

Think log piles, but for a lot more than logs

If you're looking for storage mods, i think the iron chests mod works with TFC... Also, Smart moving is just the perfect combination with the game.

Iron chests mod only works with TFC if you cheat in vanilla items. Technically, I think all the items for ender storage (ender pearls, blaze rods, wool, chests, and obsidian) can all be obtained in TFC without cheats, even if you're not really supposed to

[antimattergizmo 41]

If you're looking for storage mods, i think the iron chests mod works with TFC... Also, Smart moving is just the perfect combination with the game.

I can't imagine playing TFC without Smart moving just because it melds so well with it. not to mention they both use player API so you are gold in that department (though I haven't played since long before that was put in)

[sneakybeaver 0]

Smart moving implemented and for piles maybe stacking bars like Logs?

[Scooterdanny 285]

The fewer mods we have to include in the mod, the better, and the latter idea was already suggested before.

[sneakybeaver 0]

did you mean leather or what?

[scotty2 11]

so yeah back on topic... caves

so yeah the current cave spawn in vanilla is rather silly, there arent caves that reach from the surface to the core of the earth, most caves only form higher up and are usually shallow, also, te larger ones are usually wet because they were carved (out of limestone usually) by water running or dripping through them for millenia.

so make caves almost never spawn in hard rocks like granite and spawn a little more commonly in softer stuff like limestone

I think you are confused about the cave mechanics in TFC.

I recommend *anyone* in this thread who believes the cave mechanics in TFC are somehow more realistic than vanilla to download a copy of minecraft x-ray, and mcedit.

You'll see the caves in TFC are both, *far* more swiss-cheesy, *far* more likely to go from ~5 blocks from ground level to the static lava layer.

The principal difference is simply that the caves in TFC are most likely bugged in the fact that they rarely break ground - they stop around 5 blocks beneath it in 99% of cases.

Minecraft X-ray. No need for assumptions, you can look at the mechanics yourself.

(This should not be construed to say that I dislike the TFC cave mechanics... I like long loopy wormy criss-crossy caves. Lots of area to explore.)

[sneakybeaver 0]

I think you are confused about the cave mechanics in TFC.

I recommend *anyone* in this thread who believes the cave mechanics in TFC are somehow more realistic than vanilla to download a copy of minecraft x-ray, and mcedit.

You'll see the caves in TFC are both, *far* more swiss-cheesy, *far* more likely to go from ~5 blocks from ground level to the static lava layer.

The principal difference is simply that the caves in TFC are most likely bugged in the fact that they rarely break ground - they stop around 5 blocks beneath it in 99% of cases.

Minecraft X-ray. No need for assumptions, you can look at the mechanics yourself.

(This should not be construed to say that I dislike the TFC cave mechanics... I like long loopy wormy criss-crossy caves. Lots of area to explore.)

Agree! i have x-ray texture pack and i see a ravine here and there but but the only cave i fond is one in desert biome and it had some tetrahidrate exposed and i filled 5 backpacks(alt inv mod) with bistmunt...,sphalerite and tethraderite...

[Scooterdanny 285]

did you mean leather or what?

No, latter, it means the last, whereas former means the first, it's often used when talking about options or lists.

And guys, really? using a mod that increases difficulty, then using a x-ray pack? that's no fun.