Starter metals are easy to find

[Leosallespoli 338]

http://imgur.com/bvCsG

this is just breaking some loose rocks.

[Draco18s 46]

Sounds like something I said not too long ago myself.

[zoran 31]

Contrary to the normal blither of saying starter ores are far too hard to find.

This is, if you are complaining. Otherwise, disregard.

[Leosallespoli 338]

Sounds like something I said not too long ago myself.

Indeed.

I'm not complaining, not at all. I just find annoying when someone posts how they are having a bad time getting to start a new world, because of how hard it is to find when you don't know where to look. It just sounds like whining

[zoran 31]

Ah, so this explains that it isn't difficult? Well good work then.

[AlmightySquid 72]

This does not by any means mean the game is easier. If you think it does, find a real starter ore vein that fast. Just sayin'

[Najual 46]

This does not by any means mean the game is easier. If you think it does, find a real starter ore vein that fast. Just sayin'

Actually yes it does. As I reported here on the bug tracker and in first impressions, low tier ores are all still spawning at Y=130 consistently (49h), which makes it ignorantly simple to find and mine them as soon as you collect enough rock nuggets for a pick. In most cases you don't even need a propick, it's guaranteed to be near any nugget find on the surface.

The issue has been acknowledged and I'm sure Bioxx is still messing with the terrain/ore gen so that doesn't mean it's going to be set in stone (badump-bump).

[Leosallespoli 338]

Ah, so this explains that it isn't difficult? Well good work then.

I'm not explaining, i'm showing. And if the start is so much easier than before then yes it makes the game easier.

find a real starter ore vein that fast

I have dug down those spots and found them.... It is not that hard, like Najual said the ores are spawning near surface, and from my experience with this world i've shown sphalerite is pandemic.

[JSparrow 2]

I too am exceedingly masochistic and thoroughly enjoy the tedium of eating up several starter metal picks in a vain search for starter ore. There should be absolutely no solid or repeatable method for finding starter ores. They should be totally random in placement and furthermore, the propick's range should be increased ten-fold, you know, to increase the monotony of breaking out of the stone age.

Any consistent means to understanding this wonderful mod should be stopped immediately!

[Leosallespoli 338]

I too am exceedingly masochistic and thoroughly enjoy the tedium of eating up several starter metal picks in a vain search for starter ore. There should be absolutely no solid or repeatable method for finding starter ores. They should be totally random in placement and furthermore, the propick's range should be increased ten-fold, you know, to increase the monotony of breaking out of the stone age.

Any consistent means to understanding this wonderful mod should be stopped immediately!

Correct me if i'm wrong but as I've read previously the attempt with this mod is to make minecraft more difficult, without being stupid.

If it takes several picks doesn't mean it is difficult, maybe you don't know where or how to search. You could search random places and destroy several picks just being stupid. And if the range of the propick would be increased ten fold doesn't mean either that is more difficult if you know how it works... What would make it more difficult is increase the rate of false positives, that would be insane! Anyway, if you have a deposit that makes you stay there for a lifetime it is, again correct me if I'm wrong, not as designed to be.

Your attempt to be ironic fails too hard... sorry.

[JSparrow 2]

Correct me if i'm wrong but as I've read previously the attempt with this mod is to make minecraft more difficult, without being stupid.

If it takes several picks doesn't mean it is difficult, maybe you don't know where or how to search. You could search random places and destroy several picks just being stupid. And if the range of the propick would be increased ten fold doesn't mean either that is more difficult if you know how it works... What would make it more difficult is increase the rate of false positives, that would be insane! Anyway, if you have a deposit that makes you stay there for a lifetime it is, again correct me if I'm wrong, not as designed to be.

Your attempt to be ironic fails too hard... sorry.

It was just sarcasm. Sorry you missed it.

[Leosallespoli 338]

It was just sarcasm. Sorry you missed it.

I guess i did...

[Draco18s 46]

Started a new world (as I neigh on deleted about 8 chunks worth of stone below my house) and had the same situation. I in fact had a full stack of copper before any other metal (including from sluicing). 6 of which I got before having two of any other metal (except the silver in the first two sluices I built, which are sifting out piles of silver--18 nuggets so far).

All told from rocks (all very close to my house) I've picked up 8 small cassiterite, 9 native copper, and 4 small bismuth.

The two sluices I set up near where I found the four bismuth have collected 18 more nuggets, though the two sluices near where I found the copper have sifted out a mere 3 nuggest of cassiterite.

Every torch (excepting my house, lower right) is where I found a nugget of some metal. Just up-right of center is the third set of sluices.

[Scooterdanny 285]

I have to ask, why the gold pans? in my experience, you have to try like 30 times before you have a chance of finding a positive result.

[Draco18s 46]

I have to ask, why the gold pans? in my experience, you have to try like 30 times before you have a chance of finding a positive result.

...To fill sluices with?

Each one adds 7 dirt. If I were to dig up that same block of gravel and shove it in bodily, I'd get 20. So using a gold pan 3 times is a net profit, and on average you can gold pan a single block about 8 times before it is destroyed.

Means I need to go gravel hunting less.

I'm honestly surprised no one else figured that out.

[Scooterdanny 285]

Hmm, makes sense i guess thanks for the info Draco.

[Draco18s 46]

Sure.

Just ran into another area of significant mineral wealth (2 cassiterite within 2 blocks of each other, 8 total) and...

I got a small hematite by punching a small rock.

[Draco18s 46]

By the way, does anyone know what the search range is for small rocks?

[Qwe1rty 3]

Sure.

Just ran into another area of significant mineral wealth (2 cassiterite within 2 blocks of each other, 8 total) and...

I got a small hematite by punching a small rock.

Why are you people so lucky...

Even sphalerite is obscenely rare for me, my world seriously has no ores anywhere, whatsoever. On top of that, clay is nonexistant (I've been ranting a bit about this, but seriously, it is a pain in the ass.)

[Just_Another_Guy_:) 1,066]

By the way, does anyone know what the search range is for small rocks?

I really don't know how big it is... what i know is, it is ridiculously big, so you can't use it for specific prospecting. I mean, you can use it to know that there is that ore in the area, but not to know where it is. I think that's in place firstly for making the finding of ore a little easier, so players which ore veins spawned near botton can find something to start with, and secondly, so the prospector pick -and it's 12 blocks each side area of scanning- is a must if the players do want to advance further the first metals. The same goes to gold panning and sluices.