Boats are OP, rowing suggestion

[0Beechlgz 9]

Although I've not had much success with the search I can imagine it's talked about that boats are a bit overpowered. I began to notice that myself when I was sailing in search of a tropical jungle in what seems like an endless ocean. In highs of 27C it's quite impressive that my character has gone several days (approx 12,000 blocks) on no water and one steak travelling faster than he can run on land.

Perhaps to make boats less overpowered the player should have to craft oars, maybe:

Plank

Stick

Stick

for each oar.

The player can get in the boat without the oars but won't be able to get very far very fast, merely drift in the direction they want to go painfully slowly. With the oars they can go reasonably fast but it drains their thirst and hunger meters faster than at rest or at current boat rate.

Since TFC doesn't consider salinity, all one needs to do is take a dunk to replenish thirst, so it doesn't make it too hard. It's really only food you have to think about.

I know it's a wild idea, and a lot to implement. Probably more important things to think about for now, but just thought I'd share my thoughts and ideas.

[ECC 508]

My dear boy, your going to die. We keep talking about how boats not only need buffs in this but need to be diversed in this forum and you come in and try to discuss DEBUFFS?!?!?

hehehe, Im getting the popcorn and watching this.

(this is meant as a jest and should not be taken in any other way)

[GreenLeaf 198]

as ECC said. it has been talked about. i'm unsure of Bioxx stance towards it but what we suggested was that the ordinary boats where to be exchanged for canoes and the propulsion would be through paddles.

i suggested that instead of simply holding W to go forward you'd press A or D once to strike with your paddle on either the left or right side of your canoe which would also make it turn slightly.

We also talked about larger sailing boats and rafts and stuff.

[0Beechlgz 9]

Hm... I can't seem to find much anywhere on this forum. Is there something wrong with the search?

[killster550 401]

what, the actual, fuck.... debuffing boats.... beech, try searching the naval suggestions thread, before i feel obliged to prod you with a canoe paddle for the next 24 hours

[1SDAN 38]

I actually like the idea. The boat could go faster depending on the type of oar and would make it more believable. And the A/D mechanic would make boating more fun.

[killster550 401]

the rowing stuff was already suggested in the naval suggestions thread.

[Biodigious 211]

This is only step five in my "Everyone gets a thread about boats" plan. We still have a long way to go, but I believe we can do it.

[killster550 401]

hehe bio, now i see what you meant, at least mine was well worked out and contained something new

[renadi 258]

Given that Bioxx lamented the large oceans recently... Which I think is mistaking a great thing for a horrible one, I'd imagine he doesn't care about ANY of our boat suggestions. But I like this one, the boats we currently have are ridiculous.

[Biodigious 211]

"well thought out"? "something new"?

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[killster550 401]

3.2.1.

[GreenLeaf 198]

Given that Bioxx lamented the large oceans recently... Which I think is mistaking a great thing for a horrible one, I'd imagine he doesn't care about ANY of our boat suggestions. But I like this one, the boats we currently have are ridiculous.

is he saying enourmous oceans is something to that has to go?

[madflavius 46]

is he saying enourmous oceans is something to that has to go?

I really hope not. That's one of the reasons why TFC is believable to me--an earth-like land/water mix. Actually, it still has more land than earth does, but I think it's great now. I spent countless hours using VoxelSniper, WorldEdit, and WorldPainter to create a world with huge oceans separating continents in vanilla, and TFC does it by default, woo!

On topic, I do agree that those boats need a debuff. I think later "eras" of TFC tech could have a better boat (as discussed at length in the naval suggestion thread, so I won't go into it here), but early on in the world, we're thoroughly stone and copper age. Sea travel ought to be dangerous, terrifying, and only a last resort in that time period, separating continents and people in isolated areas until wider trade and better technology brings them forth.

[0Beechlgz 9]

I said it before and I'll say it again, I did a search, to be exact several searches using different keyword combinations on this forum and on google and got nothing relevent at all. So please do not whine at me about how this has already been discussed, I would not have posted it if I knew it had been talked about before. It was just an idea I had floating in my head and I felt like posting it, didn't expect to have everyone jump down my throat. Geez, what a bunch of up-tight grannies.

[killster550 401]

beech, seriously, in the search, or on the second page: NAVAL SUGGESTIONS, its my own thread, everything here has been suggested, and a little more effort wouldv found it.

also, keep it respectful, always.

[Just_Another_Guy_:) 1,066]

beech,-snip- keep it respectful, always.

:| is this irony, or just ironic?

[killster550 401]

in a forum thread one should endeavor to keep it respectful besides, thats his name isnt it? not sure if you're coming at me in a different angle though :S

[renadi 258]

is he saying enourmous oceans is something to that has to go?

That's the impression I got.

"Oceans: These are enormous, I’m very aware. Unfortunately there’s not a lot of control over this for me. The world begins as a blank slate of Ocean and then the terrain generator goes to work adding plains, hills, etc. I’ve tried changing it to be a plank slate of plains, but that ended up causing some weird issues."

[Just_Another_Guy_:) 1,066]

in a forum thread one should endeavor to keep it respectful besides, thats his name isnt it? not sure if you're coming at me in a different angle though :S

*Looks at the new guy's name and laughs due to his own stupidness* lol, sorry xDU that's lame... I thought when you said "beech", it was like a stupid way to say "b+tch". That's why i asked if it was either intencional irony or simply ironic. Sorry for the misunderstanding...

[GreenLeaf 198]

That's the impression I got.

"Oceans: These are enormous, I’m very aware. Unfortunately there’s not a lot of control over this for me. The world begins as a blank slate of Ocean and then the terrain generator goes to work adding plains, hills, etc. I’ve tried changing it to be a plank slate of plains, but that ended up causing some weird issues."

ah man, he wants smaller oceans! that kind of sucks. i like it the way it is now.

[renadi 258]

Idk, I'd really like a poll on the ocean 'issue' from reading the forums I'd assumed people thought as I did and wanted large oceans, but maybe we're wrong. Still, if I remember correctly, Bioxx did a poll on world size and didn't choose the option most people did anyway.

[Biodigious 211]

Meet you on the other side.

Anyone else thinking Déjà vu?

[killster550 401]

bio, im feeling quantuple deja vu, there are 5 seperate boat threads within 2 pages, but i started a poll on the oceans in general