More chisel modes

[warfighter67 124]

In light of Dunk's response to a thread about copy/pasting chiseled block layouts, I'm suggesting a different way to more quickly form chiseled blocks, in the form of new chisel modes:

Horizontal line mode: This mode will remove mini-blocks in a line perpendicular to the direction you're facing, in the horizontal (east/west) plane.

Vertical line mode: Same as horizontal except it cuts out a vertical section of mini-blocks.

Pierce mode: This mode removes mini-blocks in a line parallel to the direction you're facing, in the horizontal (forward/backward) plane.

Example: using this mode will create a 'hole' in your block.

These modes are similar to slab mode except they only do one row/column at a time instead of the whole side/face.

[Blade Avuari 25]

Maybe also a restore mode, that lets you undo the last thing you did, like you were planning it, then changed your mind?

[Just_Another_Guy_:) 1,066]

Maybe also a restore mode, that lets you undo the last thing you did, like you were planning it, then changed your mind?

:| That makes no sense... it's not like you can take the cubes you just broken apart and glue them back where they were.

[Blade Avuari 25]

like you were planning it, then changed your mind?

:| That makes no sense... it's not like you can take the cubes you just broken apart and glue them back where they were.

You could try reading more than part of what I wrote...

[Kimbblesrath 503]

Still, if you were PLANNING it, you were meaning to do it, but you never actually did. An undo would suggest you have already done it, and now you put back on. If you were planning,you would have never chiseled it is the first place.

[dunkleosteus 2,425]

You could try reading more than part of what I wrote...

no, he's right. There's no second chances here. It's not some pussy first grade chess game where you can yell "I DIDN'T TAKE MY HAND OFF THE PIECE SO IT DOESN'T COUNT"

[Just_Another_Guy_:) 1,066]

no, he's right. There's no second chances here. It's not some pussy first grade chess game where you can yell "I DIDN'T TAKE MY HAND OFF THE PIECE SO IT DOESN'T COUNT"

... Even though it could be an option in creative... I mean, yeah, a good survival game gaves no second chances (even though we still respawn when dead... ._.), but in creative mode you are trying to easily create something without worrying about dying of hunger. This mod has already done a lot for making survival mode better... like, a lot. Is it's freakkin slogan ._. . It wouldn't be a bad idea to add something to other game modes as well, would it?

As for how this could be done, you could simply create a tool which can only be spawned via creative inventory. You don't even need to make one for every metal, it's something you won't be making in survival after all.

[transcengopher 349]

What I'd like to see is when chisel is locked on a block, it'll not only cease to delete little cubic chunks out of other blocks, but also won't convert other blocks in detailed structures.

[warfighter67 124]

... Even though it could be an option in creative... I mean, yeah, a good survival game gaves no second chances (even though we still respawn when dead... ._.), but in creative mode you are trying to easily create something without worrying about dying of hunger. This mod has already done a lot for making survival mode better... like, a lot. Is it's freakkin slogan ._. . It wouldn't be a bad idea to add something to other game modes as well, would it?

As for how this could be done, you could simply create a tool which can only be spawned via creative inventory. You don't even need to make one for every metal, it's something you won't be making in survival after all.

While your idea is good, I don't believe Dunk or bioxx have any plans for improving the creative mode aspect of TFC.

[Just_Another_Guy_:) 1,066]

Well, with all this chisel thing, plus all the different wods added, plus different stone, and so on, i would say they arleady did a lot for creative, even if it wasn't intentional :3

[warfighter67 124]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they removed creative mode TROLOLOL

[mg127 0]

what about glue ?

[Srgnoodles 1,030]

what about glue ?

ummm, what about glue? that was kinda random there pal

[HiddenSage 39]

I think he was suggesting being able to glue the chiseled-off pieces of the block back on. Which would involve a glue item being created, a method for collecting the bits of block you slab off, and a way to apply both the glue and the rock chips back on simultaneously. Probably too little of a change to justify all the new recipes and code it would involve.

[Kimbblesrath 503]

That is honestly like another version of the undo method. There is a problem with this though. You would be using this stuff for building right? And buildings need to be sturdy and strong. Well, normally you would have a solid 1 m^3 of stone. But with the glue, you could have 512 little 1.9k cm^3 cubes that make up a 1 m^3 block of stone. The solid block and the block resembling cobblestone with glue have the same strength...and unless they took hours to add in a new status for EACH 512 mini-block of whether it is glued or not (and to make this not invisible by Steve's eye, add textures as well [possibly]), the gluing CAN BE DONE INFINITELY MANY TIMES.

Seems overpowered doesn't it? And anyway, I don't even think glues of the general (ya it isn't the 16th century anymore apparently) time period we are working with were able to strongly hold together (with strength as if it was solid) stone with that little surface area to bond.

The feature is fine as it is. MAYBE a few tweaks, but for the most part it is fine.

[dockwithme 76]

Lol. I thought that WAS a rule in chess at least...

I guess these new modes aren't really necessary if we might be able to make copies/blueprints for our creations. Then you could compile a set of basic plans to do exactly what the OP was suggesting. As for the planning mode - eh, not necessary. If you are that concerned about messing up/experimenting then hop into creative mode (while it still exists). The only improvement I could see happening here is when you have you cursor over a block (and when you have a blueprint equipped) the affected blocks will disappear so you see what will happen when you click. But that might be unnecessary too.

Edit: I don't like the idea of glue. :-)

[Kimbblesrath 503]

Edit: I don't like the idea of glue. :-)

Read the post above yours (mine).

[dockwithme 76]

Read the post above yours (mine).

Yea that's what I was talking about/commenting on. Sorry for not quoting more.

I would think mortar would be a more age appropriate method, but I still don't see a need for it.

[Kimbblesrath 503]

Yea that's what I was talking about/commenting on. Sorry for not quoting more.

I would think mortar would be a more age appropriate method, but I still don't see a need for it.

Ya. Ok no problem.

But mortar would have to be somewhat expensive, and still, there is the problem of it being overpowered that I talked about in my previous post.

[bsb23 303]

Easy solution for more control here. Add a drill for the straight lines requiring that you are parallel. Easy plan to understand, nothing too complex.

As for the copying what about one of the secret plans for a new tool like Dunk was talking about earlier.

Additions aren't going to happen I don't think, not without a way of making them look horrible

Edit: A way to change the radius of the chisel would also be great for chisel control