Spelunking.

[Asablief 1]

let's be mature about this gentlemen, even with rook's under-dramatic term of absence, it would make us no better than him to simply devolve into some sort of celebration in his leaving. try to ignore his attitude and lay your eyes on the subject at hand. that is the mature thing to do...

[Unavailableartist 12]

...I'm sorry about rook... I tried to help in the end. But again I'm new here... and I don't have much sway. Plus his bluntness got in the way a lot.

seeing as apparently making the caves believable is completely impossible according to the un-experienced wet-retards spamming my topic with their anal blood.

- Rook

But yea... here's more pictures of what I've from a better perspective.

It usually looks like the picture below

[killster550 401]

let's be mature about this gentlemen, even with rook's under-dramatic term of absence, it would make us no better than him to simply devolve into some sort of celebration in his leaving. try to ignore his attitude and lay your eyes on the subject at hand. that is the mature thing to do...

and here is the person i was waiting for: a person who knows about what hes talking about, yet isnt a dick about it, and calls for normal relations across the board. on the other hand mdub, not a single player is a good riddance unless he gets himself banned

[MDub 68]

Yeah yeah, im ok with being the odd man out. I say take the good and ditch the bad. Crystal caves and more water in caves are good, dealing this constant hostility is bad. Its really of no consequence if Rook comes back or not, and I dont apologize for prefering the latter.

[Menoch 335]

afternoon, all

i've been speaking to Rook for a while now after discovering that we were both spelunkers, neat guy. just fyi, he's a schizoid with a bad case of GAD and insomnia, and a minor case of schizophrenia, and thus irritability and aggression is a symptom lol.

I have read this entire thread and can honestly say that the only thing anyone did here is NOT cater to an individual's suggestions.

I think there may have even been some individuals who were just agreeing with him to smooth things over and simmer shit down.

But I refuse to accept anyone's health problems, insomnia, schizophrenia, paranoia, turrets, or whatever other bull crap excuse thrown our way for acting like a complete and total disrespectful ass hat.

Man up and accept responsibility for being a tool and don't blame the world for your antisocial behavior. Those who want to change fight to change.

This community is a damn good community, composed of all walks of life, different minds, likes and dislikes. We all can, and have at one point or another, agreed to disagree on various ideas and suggestions. If you can't hang, then this is not the place for you.

And if its not the place for you, then please do not come back.

I LIKE CAVES!

CAVES LIKE ME!

CAVES!

LOUD NOISES!

[renadi 258]

But I refuse to accept anyone's health problems, insomnia, schizophrenia, paranoia, turrets, or whatever other bull crap excuse thrown our way for acting like a complete and total disrespectful ass hat.

Man up and accept responsibility for being a tool and don't blame the world for your antisocial behavior. Those who want to change fight to change.

There are no excuses really, and I have a hard time believing someone who honestly has any of the disorders listed would be so confrontational, but I have an easy time believing they are just a generally rude person and when it comes to that people should definitely do what they can to inform others of unacceptable behaviour and if they don't adjust themselves I definitely think we should not go out of our way to cater to them.

[Treyflix 277]

Am I the only one who thinks Rook's image of a cave is pretty awesome? It too a while for him to actually spit out what he was trying to say but now that he has I really like it.

I fucking hate this community.

How can you be so intelligent and like able yet so ornery and mean? Seriously, you're screwing with my head...

Edit: now I read Asabeliefs post. I see now. I feel kind of sad now... Why couldn't we all just be civil? Seriously. If you aren't mature enough to be able to deal with that then you need to take a serious look at your life.

To move on topic guys, here, is a really good idea!

The question is. Should these crystals only be for aesthetics? Why not have them drop the gems of TFC as well?

I KNOW RIGHT?

[transcengopher 349]

Not all crystals composed of gems. I'd say gems are the least frequent material for that, usually it's salts.

As for tight caves, you guys realise that this is a very hard to code, right? You, sentient beings, built structures that resemble tight caves, and said that it's not completely accurate, and then you expect a machine to try and repeat what you did?

I can't compose descent enough algorithm from the top of me-head, can you?

[killster550 401]

the caves we get is machine generated, they just changed around a bit manually, im guessing just moving blocks wouldnt be too hard to code, but the gems is another thing entirely, they'd have to change the generation of caves entirely

[transcengopher 349]

It's easy enough to generate current caves, they are just curved lines and blobs, essentially. What people are suggesting is to add more tight feel to them by placing additional stone blocks inside, from what I can tell. It is very hard to do with providing natural feel to it.

[killster550 401]

how about a randomizer based on the gravity affected blocks which has a 1% chance of dropping a gravity affected block upon chunk load? (or something in that general direction)

[renadi 258]

I've thought that would be a good idea before, give it a m ore natural and rough feel, and honestly it's happened to me before exploring caves, but I assume it was from me digging somewhere and causing reactions through the wall or something.

[Asablief 1]

It's easy enough to generate current caves, they are just curved lines and blobs, essentially. What people are suggesting is to add more tight feel to them by placing additional stone blocks inside, from what I can tell. It is very hard to do with providing natural feel to it.

are there no values that determine the size / shape of these lines and blobs? or their quantity?

refuse to accept anyone's health problems, insomnia, schizophrenia, paranoia, turrets, or whatever other bull crap excuse thrown our way for acting like a complete and total disrespectful ass hat

you should try to think in his perspective, insomnia has disabled him from getting more than 2-3 hours of sleep a night, and schizophrenia can have catastrophic damage on the cerebral cortex, which combined can cause very irregular behavior patterns. sometimes, it's not a decision to be angry.

[killster550 401]

actually, with bioxx's new algorithm that allows him more control on land generation, it could perhaps be possible to have these type of caves generate randomly, after all IRL caves collapse even if its been stable for hundreds of years due to an unlucky step which chain reacts a cave in :3

[Unavailableartist 12]

As I previously said... There are patches of dirt that will sometimes collapse when you walk over them. But rock doing that would be interesting.

[Asablief 1]

As I previously said... There are patches of dirt that will sometimes collapse when you walk over them. But rock doing that would be interesting.

Normally sinkholes are already visible, because they form from forces of water weathering them.

[Unavailableartist 12]

But sometimes they aren't.....

<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/06/21/sinkhole-destroys-florida-home_n_1615494.html>

But it would be interesting for sink holes to spawn with rock based blocks... You know not fully collapsed. They simply look like a dip in the ground.

While dirt ones collapse by simply by simply walking over them. "Natural player trap."

[transcengopher 349]

are there no values that determine the size / shape of these lines and blobs? or their quantity?

As small, as you're suggesting, they probably will be near-straight tunnels.

[Unavailableartist 12]

As small, as you're suggesting, they probably will be near-straight tunnels.

The already are... Just bigger. With the occasional stalactite. You need to add walls and water to narrow the cave. As well as lager stactites and mites