Chainmail

[Danelli 21]

As many of you know, armor at the moment, is extremely expensive. Personally, I don't even think it is worth making. Perhaps there could be a cheaper and less effective chainmail set for each metal (copper, bronze, wrought iron, steel, ect.) Might make armor more useful and used.

By the way, there wouldn't already be a way to make normal chainmail already in terrafirmacraft. I cannot find a recipe on the TFC wiki.

[Sda215 8]

As many of you know, armor at the moment, is extremely expensive. Personally, I don't even think it is worth making. Perhaps there could be a cheaper and less effective chainmail set for each metal (copper, bronze, wrought iron, steel, ect.) Might make armor more useful and used.

By the way, there wouldn't already be a way to make normal chainmail already in terrafirmacraft. I cannot find a recipe on the TFC wiki.

Forging a full set of armor is expensive; not forging individual pieces. TFC chainmail hasn't been implemented yet. I'm unsure if this has been discussed, however.

P.S. - What makes you think that armor is not worth making? It's better than having no armor at all (unless there is something I am forgetting, since I haven't played TFC in a long while).

Oh, and welcome to the TFC Forums.

[ECC 508]

Personally I would prefer chain mail simply as a visual alternative to plate. no buffs or debuffs, just the equivalent of re-textured armor. For the same reason why people carry around maces instead of swords: 'Because I like the way it looks'

[renadi 258]

I carry maces more often simply because I never remember how to make swords.

But in most games I will choose the mace option anyway. If I ever remembered how to make swords in TFC I'd probably do so.

[Road_Kill 4]

IF the weight effects are actually added, chainmail would be a lighter but weaker alternative for archers and light infantry.

[ECC 508]

what is with people and thinking chainmail is weak? I've seen people make from simple bottle caps a form of 'mail' that in a little bit of effing about with, was quite resilient to everything except when we got crafty with sharp items. and that was made from Soda tabs(iirc, aluminum)

by the end we decided that unless someone was trying to directly stab you(thrust motion), just fitting it over a coat would be quite brilliant.

on a side note and totally off topic: No, thats not where my soda addiction came from... I think. Ok, probs thats exactly where it came from.

back on topic though, dont think mail is a underling to plate or even platemail, it is much closer to a sister... a cheep sister, but one all the same.

[Walmart Germaphobe 15]

what is with people and thinking chainmail is weak? I've seen people make from simple bottle caps a form of 'mail' that in a little bit of effing about with, was quite resilient to everything except when we got crafty with sharp items. and that was made from Soda tabs(iirc, aluminum)

by the end we decided that unless someone was trying to directly stab you(thrust motion), just fitting it over a coat would be quite brilliant.

on a side note and totally off topic: No, thats not where my soda addiction came from... I think. Ok, probs thats exactly where it came from.

back on topic though, dont think mail is a underling to plate or even platemail, it is much closer to a sister... a cheep sister, but one all the same.

+1 to this, since TFC has no war axes or spears (save for the javelin), chain would help the same, and more against maces. Also, The reason chain was used was because Iron was too hard to make into plates until the 16th century.

[halfmaster1 77]

If you want cheaper but less effective armour, only craft a chestplate.

Also, it is pretty cheap already.

[Danelli 21]

Yeah I really wish I could take this topic down xD Crafting just a chestplate works fine.

[transcengopher 349]

What makes you think that chainmail is cheaper? Far as I can tell, it will be cheaper only if you don't count man-hours of work that put into it.

chain would help more against maces

The... what? Why?

[turtletechy 37]

What makes you think that chainmail is cheaper? Far as I can tell, it will be cheaper only if you don't count man-hours of work that put into it.

The... what? Why?

Exactly. Chain would actually help less than standard plate, as its meant to help defend against slashes from a sword. However, a mace is simply a blunt force weapon, and would affect the body almost as much as it usually would.

[HiddenSage 39]

What makes you think that chainmail is cheaper? Far as I can tell, it will be cheaper only if you don't count man-hours of work that put into it.

Actually, that could be a good way to implement this in-game, if we so desired.

Have two different plans available for each armor piece: the chain plan, and the plate plan.

When you make the plate version, it goes as normal for the number of ingots needed, welding steps, etc.

If you make the chain plan, it uses less ore (where a chestplate is 2 double ingots in total right now, a chain shirt could maybe be reduced to 1 double and 1 single-- a savings of an ingot). However, there are several more steps in the actual crafting process at the blacksmith, to represent the time spent making all those links.

Leave the two versions identical for durability and damage prevention, and it can just be a tradeoff in-game. Do you want to take more time crafting your armor? Or spend more metal on it?

[Danelli 21]

Perhaps, but it would have to be a very long time to make plate worth it.

[turtletechy 37]

Actually, that could be a good way to implement this in-game, if we so desired.

Have two different plans available for each armor piece: the chain plan, and the plate plan.

When you make the plate version, it goes as normal for the number of ingots needed, welding steps, etc.

If you make the chain plan, it uses less ore (where a chestplate is 2 double ingots in total right now, a chain shirt could maybe be reduced to 1 double and 1 single-- a savings of an ingot). However, there are several more steps in the actual crafting process at the blacksmith, to represent the time spent making all those links.

Leave the two versions identical for durability and damage prevention, and it can just be a tradeoff in-game. Do you want to take more time crafting your armor? Or spend more metal on it?

It would be fairly nice if you could make it have varying damage resistance against different forms of attack. For instance, plate normally protects, but is much more expensive, and has some weakness against very hard attacks that can make it though. Making armor protect based upon durability might be a good option to for plate armor. As for chainmail, it'd use a lot less metal, however, it does take forever to make a set. Plate takes quite a long time too though. Chainmail should probably have best protection against slashing attacks, but some weakness to higher power stabbing attacks, or those with a small projectile or item stabbing. Just my thoughts, however, how easy it could be implemented is not something I know. I'd suspect it wouldn't be that simple.