Two

Environmental dead of crops don't give seeds, run around harm areas or in harm seasons later than spring (Springs is the respawn time).

The official version's installer didn't work on that particular mac, and how do you point the Mojang launcher to use that specific Java version?

Could you please explain how me using WAILA in my single player games affects how you play the game?

My protest was about that part where WAILA tends to make devs lazy (not saying that this is or will happen in any way with the TFC devs, just a statement).

If you no longer need to think about how to properly display progress or states of objects in game because WAILA does that for you, then it will very much affect my gameplay.

Installing Java is indeed a challenge on Mac. A friend tried that a few month ago and ended up screwing half of his system. But that's mostly Apple's fault, they don't see the reason to upgrade Java from J6 to anything reasonable.

I am not using it and I am not criticizing the amount of time you have spent on this, I am sorry if it sounded that way. I am criticizing WAILA in general, and I think this would be the post where users would ask for even more WAILA support.

In my opinion WAILA is one of the worst things that has happened to Minecraft, right after the implementation of wolves. I don't get why people need an addon to tell the the most basic things, like that they are looking at a stone or that it is raining. But for some reason it feels like today's gamers are no longer able to process even the simplest things without an app telling them what to do.

And then WAILA supports lazy devs, because they no longer have to add visual features to the game, because WAILA tells the user everything. Let's take for example the TFC barrel, which is - beside the update bug - a well implemented block. If there is a fluid inside, then a simple look is enough to tell how much the barrel is filled up, because the block "says" so by it's visual appearance. If it contains items or is sealed, you can no longer tell what's inside, but that is perfectly reasonable, because... duh there is a cover on top! It forces the player to be a bit organized or at least use their memory, like human beings have done it for thousands of years.

WAILA makes all that unnecessary, and you can just cramp everything everywhere, no longer need to think or plan or organize anything, WAILA will do everything for you. No longer need to dig the ground to tell the composition, WAILA tells you by just looking. No more memorization of tree types, you no longer need to know if horns means male or female cow, basically WAILA dumbs down everything to a point where it feels like playing an excel sheet with advanced graphics. And especially with TFC I don't see how this adds more challenge or believability.

If you take a look in the Cthulhu myth (especially the roleplaying game) there is a form of magic that is very subtle, comes with horrible consequences, and would fit TFC in many ways as an endgame form of entertainment. The question however is why to implement such a complex system that would take month to implement for sure, just to make hand full of users happy and annoy the rest?

I agree that if any form of magic is added, a mod would be a better idea.

For me, lumber should be a sheet-like block when placed, not a stick, so if you need only part of it, you can then just chisel it

There are many stand-alone games similar to Terrafirmacraft, for example "Stranded Deep". None of them has ever reached release, most of them die after a while and not a single one has been successful in terms of money/hour payment for the devs (or would have if they would have continued development). A stand-alone TFC would just be another stone of the beach that would be forgotten sooner or later.

If you want to accelerate development, think about how you can get more people in your team. There are enough competent people out there that would help development for a while.

However, I think it'd be interesting to try drastically increasing the decay rate of some of the foods which would force you to have a pretty decent farm to stay alive.

The defensive material argument is just pure BS.

I just start jumping when I hear a cave in coming, rarely even take damage.

BreadTastes not sweetTastes somewhat sourTastes ridiculously saltyTastes perfectly savoryTastes very bitter

A not+not+not+not makes ridiculously for one flavor, while not+not+not+not makes not for another flavor.

No you don't get it...

That area works fine, except if you teleport in.

Version #: 79.7

SSP/SMP (Single/MultiPlayer): MP

Suggested Name: Crash when loading too many chunks at once

Suggested Category: Severe

Description:

Presumably when loading too many chunks at once, detailed blocks might get confused and crash the game.

In my case I used a teleport command into an area with a few chiseled blocks.

Have you deleted your config files and are still able to reproduce this bug?: Yes

Do you have any mods other than Forge and TFC installed?: Yes

If yes, which mods?

- Carpenter's Blocks 3.3.0

- MineTweaker 3.0.8

Crash report:

java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: -1

at net.minecraft.world.ChunkCache.func_72812_b(ChunkCache.java:235)

at net.minecraft.world.ChunkCache.func_72810_a(ChunkCache.java:180)

at net.minecraft.world.ChunkCache.func_72802_i(ChunkCache.java:103)

at net.minecraft.block.Block.func_149677_c(Block.java:528)

at net.minecraft.client.renderer.RenderBlocks.func_147808_b(RenderBlocks.java:5131)

at net.minecraft.client.renderer.RenderBlocks.func_147784_q(RenderBlocks.java:4247)

at com.bioxx.tfc.Render.Blocks.RenderDetailed.renderBlockDetailed(RenderDetailed.java:61)

at com.bioxx.tfc.Handlers.Client.BlockRenderHandler.renderWorldBlock(BlockRenderHandler.java:107)

at cpw.mods.fml.client.registry.RenderingRegistry.renderWorldBlock(RenderingRegistry.java:118)

at net.minecraft.src.FMLRenderAccessLibrary.renderWorldBlock(FMLRenderAccessLibrary.java:53)

at net.minecraft.client.renderer.RenderBlocks.func_147805_b(RenderBlocks.java:296)

at net.minecraft.client.renderer.WorldRenderer.func_147892_a(WorldRenderer.java:181)

at net.minecraft.client.renderer.RenderGlobal.func_72716_a(RenderGlobal.java:1530)

at net.minecraft.client.renderer.EntityRenderer.func_78471_a(EntityRenderer.java:1187)

at net.minecraft.client.renderer.EntityRenderer.func_78480_b(EntityRenderer.java:1011)

at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71411_J(Minecraft.java:990)

at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_99999_d(Minecraft.java:887)

at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(SourceFile:148)

at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)

at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:62)

at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)

at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:483)

at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.launch(Launch.java:135)

at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.main(Launch.java:28)

That server I mentioned has a mod running that allows you to keep your items on death, so no one is afraid of dieing. And even if you would loose your stuff, then people would just make a death-room (as someone else in that thread mentioned) and kill themselves just before they go on exploring.

I agree with Alice that not eating at all should at some point be lethal (which would be a point in time after the major food bugs have been solved). A simple example would be to just set the minimum health you can drop to to zero.

"First rule of configs: 90% of people won't see your configs. 95% of people won't change them."

The forge dev-team to says, "Uses the 1.7.10 version, 1.6.4 is dead"

caused by java.net.SocketException: Permission denied: listen

I think there is already a server running. I had a certain issue with TFC that it did not properly shutdown and the Java process was lingering indefinitely. If you get such a crash, could you check how many Java processes are existing? (ctrl-shift-ESC for task manager in Windows)

Just so there is no misunderstanding: the purpose of this thread is to gather some feedback for the devs, nothing else.

Sometimes you design a good idea, implement it well, and then still everyone is doing it differently. There are always many reasons, like bugs preventing people from playing properly, people simply not finding the idea as good as you (the developer) do, but maybe you can upgrade it so people enjoy it more, sometimes players just don't understand the feature and it might need to be simplified or explained better, and sometimes a feature just doesn't turn out as planned and might get removed.

As already mentioned: my view is very limited. A server with 10 players is hardly a solid base for any statistic or a complete change of plans, but it is feedback. And your views are adding to the picture. They are neither better or worse than anyone else's view, because it's your way of playing the game, and if it suits you, then no one can argue with that. So by all means: please continue the feedback. =)

I am looking forward to the 79.8 update then.

When I try to set it up with gradlew all I get is an error message that Forge is unable to download the Forge files from the Minecraft Amazon servers. Not sure how to fix that.

Looking for a part-time employee to feed my sheep every 20 minutes. Will pay sandwiches.