Devlin

just one thing, bioxx himself just recently posted to everyone that he is not going to focus on realism entirely, he changed the word realism to believability, he wants things to be believeably hard but is willing to add in magic, mythical monsters, things that do not hold true to real life, he is even willing to add in things that have a use in real life and although he may give them there real life purpose, he may also give them a non real life purpose, like lets say for example he decide to add in a monkey, he may make it so that the monkey can fly if he believes that there is a fun use for a flying monkey, just an example and it is kinda ignoring the believable part of my point, but you get the idea, it may run around and swing from trees but if he decides that there is a use for a flying monkey that he thinks will make the game fun, he will add it. so get realism out of your head and start using the word believable, cause i for one want some god damn flying monkeis!!!! joking aside, mythical mobs would be a cool addition after real ones like foxes and horses, i would like to see neutral dragons that can trade with you, or kill you and burn your city to the ground if you attack them

that mod looks perfect, and if it is open sourced that is even better! and everything works? beds, chests, and work tables? that is an amazing mod, if bioxx is allowed to use this and use the coding that makes the boats move and have usable functions, he could add it to a buildable entity that fits in well in minecraft ( not sure what terms to use) but what ever he has to do this would be a great starting place, and hey, if bioxx does not use this i definetly will use this to make a mod for this overhaul that allows you to use a new tool and new items to build boats, now i only need to learn how to code, i have a freind he can teach me, but all joking aside, yeah, bioxx, you are a freking coding geinus, if you are allowed to use this coding, im sure you will know how to use it to add a truly incredible boat experience for all of us, if anyone can do it, it will be you

not all canyons have red rocks dude, just because the grand canyon has red rocks does not mean every canyon is made of red rocks, in fact i have been to the crand canyon and even it was not made up entirely out of red stone, how about we just make it so that a canyon biom spawns and what ever type of stone is present is what it is made of, and the edge of canyons should have stone poking out of the dirt in alot of places, not the entire edge but a large protion of it, this way it looks like a real canyon and iff you find a red colored stone that makes up the walls of the canyon then every body wins right?

i have an idea for how this can work with finite water, simply make it so that there is a block that is like the vanilla source block in that it never runns out and you can't pick it up, but it has not flow limit, if falls if there is nothing beneath itbut it will continuosly flow down a mountain, then it could flow into a river and the river ccould be made entirely out of finite source blocks. it would have to have a directed path, like it could be programmed to seek out the nearest river and form a 1 block deep path to it. this way it does not end up flooding your whole world when it spawns. or just make it so that the new buckets do not pick up vanilla water and use vanilla water as the source of fresh water springs that lead to rivers made of finite water blocks,and make it so that water that pours off of water source blocks can be collected in buckets as a source of fresh renwable water, so water source blocks can not be picked up with a bucked but finite source blocks and vanilla flowing non sorce water blocks can be collected, or atleast clicking on the vanilla water should fill up a water bucket without removing it, or ( and yes i am using "or" alot) you could use the same idea you did with gold panning and dirt/sand/gravel, click on it enough times and it disappears

you can still find gravel in the game, or atleast you used to be able too, my first multiplayer tfcraft world had gravel, it was rarer but still there. oh and i think we should have ocean, beach and river beach biomes, maybe a few variations, they simply add in sandy aread next to oceans and some rivers and lakes. Also, if canyons are added, they would have to be larger then ravines and have rivers at the bottom. not all canyons are made of red rock like the grand canyon (been there and thought it was boring, looked like a giant hole in the ground) so any rock it spawns in should be fine, but rocks should be closer to the surface and often poking out above the dirt at the edge of canyons. back to my idea about multiple types of each beach. Some should be large but not so large you can not see where the beach ends from the ther side if and average sized river, use that measurement for oceans, lakes, and rivers. others should be very close to the edge, about the same as the beaches from 1.7.3. and then there should be beaches that have varying sizes but alos have clifs that meet the waters edge that are either rocky or grassy (grassy cliffs could have trees ocasionaly. cliff size should be variable, sometimes small 2 or 3 blocks out of the water, other time large, 10-15 blocks out of the water, and any other size that bioxx sees fit to add, assuming he even uses my idea. Also, i would like to see diffrent types of sand, mostly darker richer sands but also a lighter color of sand. oh and sand should hurt you if you walk on it barefoot in the "summer". atleast in deserts.

sorry, i have a bad habit.

or you could craft an item like saddle baggs and other things so that you can place them on the animal of choise and then you can pile them up with bags and trunks, the more things you put on them the slowwer they move though and to guide them you simply attach a rope to them or something, like in simply horses. maybe if you make a cart that you can ride in, may take more then one horce or mule/donkey to pull. you can guide a hole caravan that way

it is a good idea but it is bioxx's mod, although yes i would like to see a huge bug fixx update, the buggs are minor right now and are not a big problem, maybe he could do a huge bug fix once the full agriculture update is out, he could do one huge series of bugg fixes once that happens, and when the next release comes out, beta version 3 then he can do another series of bugg fix updates, also sometimes while trying to solve one problem others pop up, programing is a very delicate procedure, if one letter on a line of code is off it could potentianly crash the entire mod, and every line of cod may in advertantly affect another, thus everything must be in perfect balance to acheive the goal of total bug removal and everytime something is added in new and old buggs are bound to pop up and will require the entire system to be rebalanced, this comes from having all of the coding for the game in one .jar, they are all closely connected with no boundries to prevent them from interacting negatively, if minecraft had been put together better it wwould have consisted of multiple files in seperat locations rather then have the entire ai and game coding in one file, there should have been one file desiganted to launching the game and searching for files that need to be accesessed at apropriate times but in seperate file thus allowing you to code each system individualy, and then have a central brain file that acces what files are needed at what times. but i digress, minecraft is not as well coded as it could or should havebeen but it works and our modders must work with what they have, bioxx has to take his time doing things as he ses fit and we must allow him to do so in the hopes it will all come together in the end and i for one have faith that bioxx and his team have what it takes. oh and yes while my description is a better way to code if done correctly it is also sligtly slower to load and render in things, only slightly, but it would fix most bugg problems that minecraft is well know for

i admit that double weapons would be cool, but they would also be practialy pointless as to use both blades bioxx and his team would have to code special animations so that either the blade is swung back and forth or could be used to stab both forward and back, not the hardest to code but it would definaetly conflict with a mod like mine little pony and smart moving. however this mod could very well implement the other weapons, although to get a realalistic feel out of two handed swords they should use a constant bow draw back animation so both hands are on the weapon. so unless the team for tfcraft and the maker of mine little pony and smart moving mod get together the three are almost certainly not going to work together, the smart moving mod and minelittlepony mods both look mostly complete so this might not be as unlikely as with other mods that are still under heavy developement and the two teams would most likely not find a time that both are free to work together. but mlp and sm are actulay feesable. now onto the positive part of my comment. love the idea, warhammers, sythes, kamas/sickles, falchion and scimitar, love them all, i do not think that all these diffrent weapons will be added but i do believe that quite a few should. and if you look at my comment on the magma forge suggestion, i say that ultra powerful but heavy weapons and armour colud be made by using an ultra powerful forge/bloomery/anvil combo that not can only be used to forge ultra powerful weapons and armour for a net ore loss in comparision to the lesser versions, thus balancing it, so most of the items needed could be made at a magma forge and then crafted together to make the super powered heavy versions i see in these images, so you make a regular flail with a regular anvil and you make a heavy anvil with a magma forge, and for 3 times the ore or ingots/unshaped metal you get double the power and double the uses. i did not start the magma forge idea but i did come up with a fesible way to build and use the MF, so be sure to check it out and give both these guys the support they deserver for comming up with such awsome ideas for us to debate and build upon

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These are my ideas i do not expect most of them to be used, but if it is possible alot of them would be good additions if done properly, just adding to the topic Hostile mobs: Lions Jaguar Giant squid Naga Scorpions, small but poisionous Snakes Crocodiles and Aligators Flying mobs could be added, both hostile and neutral, real and mythical Tigers Sea Serpent or Sea Dragon Leviathan, only spawns in underwater trenches, very rare but if you see one it means certain death for you and your ship bees, can be tamed if you wear special bee keeping outfit, made from thick cloth like burlap sac and a fine thread mask, made from string or silk Neutral or Passive mobs: Llama Dragon, becomes hostile if attacked, can be bartered with for gold and gems alot of gold and gems, dragons hate to part with anything they think they own, especialy if it is rare Pegasus Goat Rabbit frog Donkey, carry heavy load, stubborn as all hell Duck Water Bufalo Reindeer Geese Swan Ostrich Koi Fox Shrimp/Krill Whales Silkworms, rare, only spawn in caves and very hard to farm Walrus, don't get too close or they charge you, stay atleast 5 blacks away, Sealion,won't attack unless attacked Horses, like simply horses, or work with simply horses to make the two compatible (make it so you can make the stuff to tame horses) what i think elephants should be like, becomes hostile if spooked, spawns in herds and can smash through trees. if tamed can be made to cary alot of stuff but moves very slowly Genral ideas: You should be able to breed wolves into dogs, not huge breeding into 50 diffrent dogs just make it so that when you breed wolves enough times one of the babies is a "dog" dogs will be the same only with better pathfinding. Humans should be added as the new npc's. hostile villages should spawn Goblins in them, or Pigmen Fish that you actualy have to fish for like notch origanly intended Craftable Golems: bring back the Iron Golem Add a Golden Golem, moves fast but weak attacks, runs in hits their target and runns away, use rose gold black or Red/Blue Steel Golems, strong but weaker then iron, fast but slower then gold, attacks by ramming the target? don't know what its attack style is but seeing as how i am sure that if implemented golems will be very hard to make, the steel golem should have decent fighting style, so the Iron golem takes like 100 ingots to craft, gold would only take 50 and steel should take between 75 and 100 Nether idea: In the nether there should be extremely dangerous mobs, and some very useful neutral mobs, Hostile Nether mobs: demons, big bulking mobs with a lot of hp and do alot of damage, need ultra powerful armour to stand a chance and they have slightly longer reach then you hell hounds thresher, magma shark/fish, attacks magma tortiose hell beasts, big mob that spwans in lava lakes and throw fireballs at fire dragons nether should be redesigned so it is much more open, using the full 256 height, open space for dragon flight, ghasts spawn rate should be reduced or the nether needs to have multiple biomes and only certain biomes can spawn ghasts Fire minotuars, nearly twice the size of player and much more dangerous then most mobs fire drakes, like a mini wyvern, hostile, fly in and attack the player can breathe fire but half as often as ghasts shoot fireballs Neutral Nether mobs, no passive: hell mamoths, like elephants only covered in flame resistant hair, wearing it protect from fire damage but does not make you imune hell bats, guano can be refined into more powerful gunpowder for better tnt, but only slightly, very hard to contain fire dragons, if you give them gold or gems they will help you out by giving you a ride, if attacked they will drop you off, can be bartered with for rare items, maybe have "settlements" huge pillar or pliiars with holes in the sides in the middle of lava seas. not furnashed but fire dragongs can be found in or around the pillar, min of 3 per pillar max of 5-7, can not be controlled when ridden, must tell them coordinates and they pathfind to them Magma tortiose, large, eats coal, give it coal and you can ride it, be careful they tend to dive under the magma if angry with player because they take damage or are not fed regularly, imps, small creature, they like money, alot of money, if you give them alot of money they will defend you for a certain amount of time. throw mini fireballs that explde but barely enogh to break one nether rack, spreads fire around, will follow you into regular world, if they become untame in the regular world they start forest fires often but die if the sun comes up, instant dies not burns to death or you could try to talk with the mo'creatures guy and just have us download his mod to gett all of these, just simple coding to remove their regular drops and replace it with your own, that way we get a bonus for using multiple mods.

i like this except that i do not think that deserts should be next to oceans just a new beach biom that can grow palm trees and coconuts, coconuts would be a good adition too, and looking at california's geography tells me that slight forests or plains can get pretty close up to the water, maybe just barely meeting the water for a few metters but for the most part it would be beaches. also there should be slightly more variation on what biomes meet what biomes as your way pretty much only allows for you to be on a huge funky looking dart board, so maybe make it so 2 or 3 biomes can connect to one another so you can have multiple biomes connected to a forset biome you start out in so you have 2 or more choices if you don't like forests, like swaps and forests next to plains, and wet lands, wet lands are alot like a cross between plains and swamps, very wet but very flat with few trees, and wet lands are usualy not only home to very tall grasses that but also a variety of wildlife and can be a good place to find certain animals

i don't think that it is that he does not like the structures, i just believe that he would like to see the generated structures replaced with tfcradt materials, i for one would love to see villages made out of biome related materials, just so long as it can be done without looking hodgpog, or he can diable them entirely and add in his own new and improved generated structures that server more purpose, like for human npc's and and town mines for those npc's, heck maybe he can eve have the npc's have little minig outposts in random locations so they can sell ores and rare stone like basalt and granite to you, and the mines will be ore rich,

i think the rings are for chainmail, he will probabaly add a jewlery.png if he adds rings and neclaces and stuff

i was about to suggest that if the developers at mojang don't add this that bioxx and his team should try to add it themselves, glad to see that it has been taken care of by forge. hope to see the diffrent stairs and assorted blocks soon.

i like the clams idea but im not understanding what you are saying about how to get them, are you saying that you break blocks and they have a chance of dropping like gems? cause that does not sound very fesible to me, how about one of these suggestions instead, they are either an entity that apears under water and can not be moved only killed, or they are a block that spawn in diffrent sizes and in large clusters, they would have to have coding to allow water to occupy the same space as them, like coral from tropicraft, or have a multi surface texture, so it looks like a water block when place but has a clam texture on the inside, like a flower texture body that is inside the water block, and it can only be placed in water, like sugarcane they can not be planted without water near them only they need water or other clams surrounding them on 4 sides, also alow coding for if they spawn on walls or in clefts of a groto, they should also have a mushroom spread system so they spread under water like mushrooms spread on land only slightly more quickly with a group size max that stops them from spreading. oh and you would eat the clams and sometimes come across pearls when you open them, which could be used for aquatic enchants or be sold to villagers for high prices

or you could spawn with death penalties, on top of having very low health and hunger. i actualy talked about this im my new health and medicine topic, it is starting to get a little low on the charts as every one seems to want to add items and entities rather then actualy focusing on features like health and hunger and how things could be made more realistic in a fun and challenging way, but if you check it out and have some good ideas or want me to remove or change parts of mine then feel free to leave a comment, if it fits well and people like it i will add it to my original post, also bioxx has already shown intrest in my ideas and said he would be checking my topic when he gets around to reworking the health and medicine systems, so head over to check it out. oh and i would like to see alot more farmable animals. horces and ox for making transporting things and your self easier. bees for wax and honey, herbs for medicine and food. and a more in depth health and hunger system, maybe replacing the current hearts and chicken legs with bars the fill up and you need to keep eating to keep the food bar up and make sure you are in good health to keep the health bar up, hunger bar slowly drains over time but health only drops when injured, starving or otherwise harmed. and food that is prepared better fills the food meter up more, but it won't have a cap, it could be as easy as having a food icon that has a counter, each food is asigned a certain number and eating higher level foods gives more food points, and the food points slowly drain away, but eating too much gives you a bloated effect that makes you slugish and slightly more vulnerable to attacks

or quite simply make a placeable item that takes up a 3x3x? space, use 2x sheet metal or something and has many stages. so you craft it some how, not entirely sure, your idea might be better, but my idea would give you a cualdron type block that yo place and fill up, your idea could work just as well, or a combo of our 2 ideas, you buld the container but leave one block facing the forge, either on the top or the botom, open and then you craft a nozel type thing to direct the stream, kinda like the bloomery block that when you place it in the hole it takes up a 1x2x1 space like the sluice and the animation pours off of there, great thing about magma forge is that it should never cool off, it should just slowly empty over time so you have to go find more lava to fill it with, and instead of a redsteel bucket to carry the lava, how about redsteel pipes, i geuss a regular steel container can hold the lava but the pies would have to be redsteel to withstand the heat since pipes are thinner then the walls of this design, if you were to use the metal blocks idea then iron or steel would be an acceptable starting point, higher teir metal hold more lava and more ore, if you use my original idea of a 3x3x? placeable item then it would probably need to be atleast black steel, i like the block idea better now that i think about it, maybe welding 2 double ingots gives you a block of metal? or 2 gives half a block and 4 gives a whole block, if it is made with a blocks though it need to be 5x5x? with a 3x3x? space inside to fill up with lavaEDIT: um how about also to get the higher teir metals you can through unsahpped metas into the magamaforge to get things like steel and black steel, so if you want a pure zink heavy ultra sword youa bunch of sphalertite but if you want to the magma basin, but if you want higher teir metals you need to use the metalurgy table and then toss the unshapped metal into the basin. also the magma forge could have a big gui with a new magma forge anvil side and a magma forge forge side to heat up the metal, any item placed in the forge is kept nice and hot but the anvil portion does not use ingots, it uses the measure ments that the bloomery has to coculate how much metal you have to work with and you have to work it from there, if you get it to the point that you craft a weapon, tool or armour peice it appears in an output slot, heavy tools and weapons should have diffrent designs, a heavy copper sword should look diffrent then a heavy steel sword

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the way something like this would have to be designed would be awkward, if you have lava pouring into it it could have many potential disaters, if you have it flow into it from one direction it might be easier to build but would look very strange and awkward. what if you had to build a 2 part forge, the basic part of the forge would be the same but you would need a specialy crafted lava basin that you can fill with lava and when you click it or pull the lever it "turns" and pours some "magma" into the forge. or has like an open spout, im not sure what it is called, but when you click it it releases some magam kinda like this or if you want the lava to flow into the forge this is a viable option these would require a special animation to give it the realy cool effect that one would expect with this kind of forge, nothing too difficult just uses add a trail that the flowing lava texture will follow when activated and dissapear when deactivated, the stram it would have to follow would have to be thiner then a block, maybe as thin as a fence post? these metal magam containers would be able to hold sevral blocks of lava, redsteel would probably be a good metal for this level of forge, and could be used as bloomeries too, maybe they could be able to take in magma and ores and pour the melted metals into the forge and the metals can be shaped into ultra high teir weapons armours and tools. oh and the reason i said that redsteel should be used for lava is that i remeber a comment bioxx posted about maybe using bluesteel to carry whole blocks of water so blue for water red for magma. also a good idea is that the magma forge needs to have huge shaped molds, like for a sword instead of pouring the metal in a mold and working it into an ingot, you need to make huge stone or metal molds that have durability and when you pour the metal directly into the mold you need to work it in the fforge, thus combinding a bloomery forge and anvil all in one, but it can only be used for higher teired weapons and tools that require huge amounts of ores, thus you can not make regular weapons and armours and although the new weapons and armours have more uses and deal more damage, they cost more resources then they are worth, this way it balaces it out, you could make 10 regular picks that take alot of work and time, or you can make one ultra pick that has as many uses as 7 of those picks but costs the same amout of ore, also could be used for delving into the nether, as if you add a way to get to the netherthe mobs there would have to be horrific and powerful demanding stronger weapons and armour. this could be the starting point for that part of the mod. and yes i am an overlord fan

sorry i clicked post before i was done, the mod redpower also has a similar function with the multiple partial blocks it creates, allowing for intresting and inventive designs, such as a table or chair, even modern art, the voxel engine is alot more flexible then you might think, i even stumbled across a mod that allows the use of "dust" to make patterns on blocks. a voxel engine can esily be made to do many things even allow blocks to occypy the same space. the voxel engine can even register every pixel as its own individuel spot that can allow you to place diffrent placeble items or blocks

not true, if you look up a mod called tropicraft it has coral that does exactly this without affecting anyother blocks coding, there used to be a coral reef mod and it did the same thing with even more coral types but i have been unsuccessful at finding it. but these mods are proof of concept, it is possible to code a block to occupy the same space as a water block, althpoough the blocks do tend to have trouble with flowing water, but it is a rare occurence

the textures are not coded they are just images, you don't have to be a coder or know anything about coding to beable to look at pictures, siply open the file and look at the folder called bioxx, it have a bunch of images, such as mutiple diffrent colors of beds that have yet to be added. buckets, nugets, cloth pillows, bedframes, heck there is even a knife sprite, meaning that sooner or later we will be able to use knives

what are you talking about? are you trying to say that it is impossible to add new stairs and ladders? cause hate to burst your ignorant bubble dude but there are already dozens of mods out there that do just that, hell all it takes is the same coding as the fences and stairs coded to a new block and a corresponding texture, hell minecraft itself is going to release multiple colored stairs and half slabs. so stop talking out your ass and actualy look shit up before you start raddling of bullshit cause you think you know it all.

how about they just add fletching? the skill of creating arrows and bows?